Subwoofer room size and distance

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Brian Alexander

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Amateur question, but that's why I'm here.

I'm helping do a movie night for a local nonprofit that works with people who are blind and visually impaired. When you can't see the screen, the audio experience is what really brings you in and immerses you in the film. So, I'm bringing some extra audio equipment i have at home to set up a better sound system for the night aside from the TV's built in speakers.

The only sub i have is an 8" 200W one which works great for my living-room sized listening area. It has a lot of punch and low end in my listening space, but the listening space for the movie watching area is very large. It's a multi-purpose room that's used for assemblies, lunches, etc. If I had to guess, I'd say 30 across and about 70 feet long. There is a divider coated in fabric that cuts the room in half (30x35), and the ceiling is about 30ft high as well. The fabric divider will be the back wall.

So, two questions

1. Based off of what little I know about loudness, SPL, and how sound "works," as long as the listeners are near the source of the sound, the sub should still be able to provide reasonable bass for a movie at comfortable listening volume, right? If not, can someone help explain why it wouldn't?

2. Are there any placement or setup things I can do to help out the bass if it is a little skimpy for the listening area? The walls are solid concrete with rebar, so I don't know how well placing the sub nearer to a wall to try and "load it" (terminology check?) would do. And I'm aware how those will be for reflections; there are some curtains, flags, banners, pictures, etc. strewn across the walls in this area which should absorb at least some of the reflections from the speakers.
 
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shadyJ

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Your 8" sub will be sadness incarnate in a room like that.

If I were you, I would look around to see if any audio business would be willing to loan and setup the audio for a movie night like that. Some of the people I know in the audio industry would be glad to help out for a good cause like that. Where are you located?
 
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Brian Alexander

Enthusiast
I'm in the Little Rock area.

I just want "as good as possible" sound. I'm full aware in such a large room, I'm not going to get audiophile-approved sound. As long as I'm able to compensate for the low-end deficiency of small satellite speakers, I'm okay. THere's also a possibility of me using a much smaller room if one is available. I highly doubt we'll have more than 10-20 clients show up, so that'd be ideal to not use such a large space.

Buddy of mine has an old 15" sub, but he's unsure of the power of the amp. Could we multi-sub and get a more realistic result? Or is it a waste without a much larger and more powerful unit?

Tangential noob question: Which matters more, the amp power in a powered subwoofer, or the woofer size? IE: If you had a choice between a 12" sub at 1,000W, or some other one at 18" and 650 W, what'd be the pros and cons of each? i made up those two nimaginary subs, but you get the overall question I think.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

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Specs like that don't tell the whole story, so it is tough to judge a sub by them. If you want to know for sure how a sub can be expected to perform you'd want to pick one off the Data-Bass list that is proven to perform:

https://data-bass.com/systems

Audioholics rates based on room size too, so you can take a look at those recommended for large room and get an idea of what it would cost (at least $400-500). I'd say in the ballpark of the HSU VTF-2 Mk5 to get good (not necessarily audioholic) bass in there.

My current room is ~25x30 with an open kitchen and high vaulted ceilings and I run a dual 15" driver sub.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

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Amp power doesn't tell you much without knowing the sensitivity of the sub. If your 200W sub is only 87 dB sensitive, and you had a similar sub except it was 90dB sensitive it would get as loud with 100W amp...

Generally the larger driver diameter can push more air, which is a good thing. No replacement for displacement as they say.

I'd borrow your friends 15" and leave your 8" out of the picture, the 15" is almost certainly the more potent sub. Small 8" drivers aren't what you want in a sub generally.
 
theJman

theJman

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I'd borrow your friends 15" and leave your 8" out of the picture, the 15" is almost certainly the more potent sub. Small 8" drivers aren't what you want in a sub generally.
+1

Given the circumstances this is the best option.
 
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