Sub Decision: SVS PB1000 versus Velodyne Impact 12

[neil jackson]

Hi

am in the market for a fairly basic sub. At my budget level I could get either, though the Velodyne is $100.00 more (in New Zealand).

Given that it will be used 100% for home theatre, in an average size room would you agree that the SVS is the way to go?

thanks

Neil

 

[anamorphic96]

The SVS should walk all over the Velodyne. I doubt that Velodyne will do much below 28-30hz. While the SVS is comfortable to 20hz. Plus it's a $100.00 cheaper.

 

[rnatalli]

Another vote for SVS.

 

[hyghwayman]

+ SVS
Not sure about down in New Zealand but SVS offers a 45 test drive

 

[neil jackson]

Hi and thank you all for your replies.

From a quick look at the specs for both subs the SVS appears to be significantly more powerful.

am I right on that?

 

[hyghwayman]

Neil..
I had to look, the Velodyne specs were hard to find compared to the spec for the SVS
Looking at the info below the Vel. looks to be more inline with entry level subs like my old Bic F12


SVS PB1000
19-270 Hz +/- 3 dB
300 watts (720 watts peak dynamic)
Weight (unboxed): 46 pounds

Velodyne Impact 12
29 Hz to 140 Hz
165 watts (275 watts peak dynamic)
Weight (unboxed): 35 pounds

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

Judging audio product by specs is not an easy task.

For example:
19 Hz to 140 Hz is very likely much worse than 22-100Hz +/- 1dB

Oh yea, SVS easily walks over the velodyne.
If I'd to find closest completion to pb1000 is this one : VTF-2 MK4 Subwoofer
It's a bit more versatile for usage and placement, but I still bet SVS has more raw power

and this one:
Outlaw Audio LFM-1 Plus Powered Subwoofer

 

[shadyJ]

Judging audio product by specs is not an easy task.

For example:
19 Hz to 140 Hz is very likely much worse than 22-100Hz +/- 1dB

Oh yea, SVS easily walks over the velodyne.
If I'd to find closest completion to pb1000 is this one : VTF-2 MK4 Subwoofer
It's a bit more versatile for usage and placement, but I still bet SVS has more raw power

and this one:
Outlaw Audio LFM-1 Plus Powered Subwoofer

I would guess both the VTF2 and LFM Plus are higher performers than the PB1000. Outlaw claims that the LFM-1 Plus performs similarly to the EX except 4 dB less output. SVS claims that the PB1000 is 3 dB down in deep bass with respect to the PB12 NSD but not as much in upper bass. When you compare the LFM-1 EX to the PB12 NSD, the EX has a pretty healthy lead except for around the tuning point. I would bet that the LFM Plus is more on the level of the NSD, and I think the same would be true of the VTF2.

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

I would guess both the VTF2 and LFM Plus are higher performers than the PB1000. Outlaw claims that the LFM-1 Plus performs similarly to the EX except 4 dB less output. SVS claims that the PB1000 is 3 dB down in deep bass with respect to the PB12 NSD but not as much in upper bass. When you compare the LFM-1 EX to the PB12 NSD, the EX has a pretty healthy lead except for around the tuning point. I would bet that the LFM Plus is more on the level of the NSD, and I think the same would be true of the VTF2.

Exactly, my point
While Velo is unanimously out of the race, HSU/Outlaw are very close contenders.
My educated guess VTF2 is on par (or close), while LFM Plus with it's larger driver might have a output power advantage ...
The choice has to be dependent on OP's room size

 

[rnatalli]

One other player to consider is the Rythmik LV12R which is a strong contender in the sub $600 range.

 

[neil jackson]

hi and thanks for your replies.

unfortunately the other subs you all mentioned are not available in NZ.

will stick with SVS

not sure if I should consider spending an extra $300 and get the PB12-NSD

 

[rnatalli]

The PB12-NSD gets you another 3db down low. Whether that's worth another $300 is up to you.

 

[hyghwayman]

Have you called / emailed or chatted with the pros at SVS?
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[billy p]

This reviewer compared the predecessors of both the subs you're seeking.... http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/write-your-own-review/47005-review-svs-pb10-nsd-subwoofer.html