Star Trek 08 Update Part 2

[stratman]

Well we're less than 4 weeks away from release date, 4.8.08. Has anyone seen any trailers on TV or commercials?? I've scoured the net looking for any clues or blurbs, nothing. It appears everyone is keeping quiet, the last "official" snipet I found reported that production was wrapping up filming in California. I haven't seen anything anywhere, I estimate that if they're less than a month away, they've got to be in post-production/editing phase. Let's hope JJ Abrams didn't mess this up.

 

[mike c]

sigh.

if its JJ abrams...

good luck:
-getting an ending
-getting some real information about the movie
-be prepared to lower your expectations due to all the hype

 

[MUDSHARK]

Well we're less than 4 weeks away from release date, 4.8.08. Has anyone seen any trailers on TV or commercials?? I've scoured the net looking for any clues or blurbs, nothing. It appears everyone is keeping quiet, the last "official" snipet I found reported that production was wrapping up filming in California. I haven't seen anything anywhere, I estimate that if they're less than a month away, they've got to be in post-production/editing phase. Let's hope JJ Abrams didn't mess this up.

The subspace interference is the likely cause. Long range sensors should be scanning soon.

 

[stratman]

The subspace interference is the likely cause. Long range sensors should be scanning soon.

LOL!! Where's ol' Ham Shatner when you need him??

 

[Bluesmoke]

The movie has been pushed back to Dec 2008.

 

[Seth=L]

The movie has been pushed back to Dec 2008.

What? Where was it before? I was under the impression it wasn't coming out until summer 2009.

 

[stratman]

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The movie has been pushed back to Dec 2008.

Holy smokes!!!!!!!!! Not Dec. 2008, but May 2009! This is new update, yesterday when I searched every site had May 8th, 2008! Including IMDB and official Trek site.

 

[Audioholics]

That likely means that either:

a) he screened it - and got CREAMED. Now he has to make changes to avoid getting publicly humiliated. Everyone predicted it..., or

b) the writer's strike hosed him - though this seems less likely since he was well into production...

 

[Pyrrho]

LOL!! Where's ol' Ham Shatner when you need him??

William Shatner is fun. One simply must go in with the right attitude, and then one can really enjoy his performances. My wife and I are getting a real kick out of him on HD broadcasts of the original series.

In other words, there is nothing wrong with his acting, but there can be something wrong with one's attitude towards his performance. His acting is a perfect match for the sets and costumes, as well as the dialog, in those old shows. It really makes me wish they made more than just three seasons of it.

I doubt that Chris Pine will be as good at playing Kirk:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_(film)

I'll wait for the reviews before seeing it, as I don't want to waste my time and money on junk.

 

[stratman]

William Shatner is fun. One simply must go in with the right attitude, and then one can really enjoy his performances. My wife and I are getting a real kick out of him on HD broadcasts of the original series.

In other words, there is nothing wrong with his acting, but there can be something wrong with one's attitude towards his performance. His acting is a perfect match for the sets and costumes, as well as the dialog, in those old shows. It really makes me wish they made more than just three seasons of it.

I doubt that Chris Pine will be as good at playing Kirk:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_(film)

I'll wait for the reviews before seeing it, as I don't want to waste my time and money on junk.

I agree with you 100%, Shatner is fun, it's people that want him to act a certain way(?) that get bent out of shape, I personally like his "hammy" style, it's cool kitschy....ST will never be the same without Shatner.

 

[cfrizz]

All of the ST captains have had extensive stage training & are used to being & acting as though on stage rather than the camera. which is a totally different kind of atmosphere & requires a bit of a different style of acting.

But I believe that it is precisely that training that makes them stand out as the captains. They have the IT that is so essential for that role & makes them so believable.

If any of you had seen the clip of Genevieve Bujold as Janeway you would have cringed! While she may be a good actress, she just WASN'T Captain material! Thank God she had sense enough to know that & quit!

 

[Pyrrho]

I agree with you 100%, Shatner is fun, it's people that want him to act a certain way(?) that get bent out of shape, I personally like his "hammy" style, it's cool kitschy....ST will never be the same without Shatner.

Your choice of words is rather apt; "hammy" and "kitschy". I did not appreciate those things when I was young and watched the show; I wanted it to be more serious. But I now enjoy it for what it is, and I have probably never enjoyed it more in my life, which came as quite a surprise to me when I decided to start watching the local HD broadcasts of it.

By the way, it looks great in HD, though I wish that they had not "updated" some of the special effects. Some of these are fairly unobtrusive, but others are obvious CGI add-ons that look totally out of place, drawing attention to themselves and destroying the gloriously kitschy ambiance. Frankly, it makes me want to buy the show in the remastered DVD version, as that one, I believe, has the original special effects. Too bad companies can't leave "classic" science fiction alone and feel compelled to merge an old film with new effects that are stylistically out of place. I find the argument that they would have put those new effects in originally if they were making it now very uncompelling, as they would also have different sets, different costumes, different dialog, and different actors, too, if they were making it now. If they must redo them, I wish they would just do a remake and let those of us who wish to view the original see the original in its original glory.

 

[Pyrrho]

All of the ST captains have had extensive stage training & are used to being & acting as though on stage rather than the camera. which is a totally different kind of atmosphere & requires a bit of a different style of acting.

But I believe that it is precisely that training that makes them stand out as the captains. They have the IT that is so essential for that role & makes them so believable.

If any of you had seen the clip of Genevieve Bujold as Janeway you would have cringed! While she may be a good actress, she just WASN'T Captain material! Thank God she had sense enough to know that & quit!

I don't think any of the others are nearly as kitschy and hammy as William Shatner. Patrick Stewart, for example, is more conventionally a "good actor", and his performance is more realistic and believable. Sure, he projects like a Shakespearean actor (which he is), but he does not deliver that over the top performance that William Shatner gave.

You can take my comments as either higher praise for Shatner or for Stewart, if you wish. And, in a way, you would be right regardless of which way you take it.

I suppose I should mention that the style of acting that the other actors gave in the original series was more often over the top than the other series. Whoever will forget, after watching the original series, DeForest Kelley (Dr. McCoy) saying, "He's dead, Jim!", or his emotional outbursts, or James Doohan (Scotty) trying to get the most speed/power out of the warp engines, or telling the captain that whatever it is that he needs is impossible, and then making it happen anyway?

It is absolutely a classic show that one never forgets.

 

[gene]

They claim the movie is purposely held up for a summer release for bigger presence.

 

[MUDSHARK]

By the way, it looks great in HD, though I wish that they had not "updated" some of the special effects. Some of these are fairly unobtrusive, but others are obvious CGI add-ons that look totally out of place, drawing attention to themselves and destroying the gloriously kitschy ambiance. Frankly, it makes me want to buy the show in the remastered DVD version, as that one, I believe, has the original special effects. Too bad companies can't leave "classic" science fiction alone and feel compelled to merge an old film with new effects that are stylistically out of place. I find the argument that they would have put those new effects in originally if they were making it now very uncompelling, as they would also have different sets, different costumes, different dialog, and different actors, too, if they were making it now. If they must redo them, I wish they would just do a remake and let those of us who wish to view the original see the original in its original glory.

I received the three seasons for my birthday last year. I was wondering if the HD season is worth the price. Thanks for giving your take on it.