SPL Meter & Setup DVD

avaserfi

avaserfi

Audioholic Ninja
Let me clear up one misconception about SPL meters since I see so much talk about accuracy. Just because a meter displays to 0.5DBs or 0.1DBs does not mean it is accurate. Most low cost SPL meters (under $300-500) are inaccurate to an extent and cannot actually give you a precise reading within 1DB at most frequencies much less 0.1-0.5DB. So the question becomes does it matter? No, a regular Radioshack meter is more than good enough for setting loudness levels on all your speakers the 1-2DB error will be okay (it is about this at the frequencies played through most AVRs). Would you want to use an SPL meter as a linear microphone? No way thats a bad idea, but for simple level setting you are okay. Just go to Radioshack and spend $50 bucks and be happy with it.

As far as calibration discs go both Avia and DVE work well. Ease of use goes to Avia as the DVE menu system is a PIA, but it does have more functionality. If I were you I would wait a little bit for the HD versions of both discs to be released before purchasing.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
Yeah, the only reason I replaced my analog SPL meter with a digital one was because I wanted something that was easier for me to read. I don't think it's necessary to spend $100. Most of us are happy with a $50 or $60 SPL meter.

This is the one I have:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/333306-REG/Galaxy_Audio_CM_130_CM_130_CHECK_MATE_.html

It's in increments of 0.5dB, which is good enough for me. Someone mentioned an $80 meter that had increments of 0.1dB, which is nice. But I agree with Greg and Avaserfi that you don't need to spend that much.
 
Savant

Savant

Audioholics Resident Acoustics Expert
David:

The Nady meter you linked appears to offer at least a couple advantages over the Radio Shack meters.

1. It has a stated range of 30-130 dB. The low end of that range is 20 dB lower than the Radio Shack meters. This could come in handy if you ever have a need to (e.g.) measure background noise in a residential HT, which is usually (and should be) lower than 50 dB (the lower limit for the Radio Shack meter).

2. It looks as if the ranges on the Nady meter are basically "high" and "low." In other words, for quiet stuff, you pick "low" and for higher amplitude stuff you pick "high." The Radio Shack meters use a (IMO) clunky range selector that only gives you access to 20 dB of range at a time. In other words, if you pick the lowest setting on the Radio Shack meter, which is the 60 dB setting, you can only measure between 50 and 70 dB. If your source goes above 70, you have to pick 70, which now gives you access to the 60-80 dB range...and so on. Now, it might be that that doesn't matter to you since the source you'll be using - presumably some test noise signal - will not be fluctuating by ±10 dB. But I have found instances where this "feature" of the Radio Shack meters is a limiting factor. (Then again, I may be asking more out of my SLMs than the typical user...)

avaserfi:
Let me clear up one misconception about SPL meters since I see so much talk about accuracy. Just because a meter displays to 0.5DBs or 0.1DBs does not mean it is accurate. Most low cost SPL meters (under $300-500) are inaccurate to an extent and cannot actually give you a precise reading within 1DB at most frequencies much less 0.1-0.5DB. So the question becomes does it matter? No, a regular Radioshack meter is more than good enough for setting loudness levels on all your speakers the 1-2DB error will be okay (it is about this at the frequencies played through most AVRs). Would you want to use an SPL meter as a linear microphone? No way thats a bad idea, but for simple level setting you are okay. Just go to Radioshack and spend $50 bucks and be happy with it.
In general, I don't disagree with you. However...

I have owned and/or operated at least five of the Radio Shack meters in my career (maybe more). Without exception, I calibrated them and found each to be within 0.5 dB right out of the box. I would be surprised if even cheap meters like the Radio Shack ones were off by as much as 2 dB. IMO, that would be a considerable amount of error for, even a cheap SLM. There are other reasons one might consider "upgrading" from a Radio Shack meter, but I don't think SPL accuracy is one of them. (Of course, we would agree on this last point, albeit for different reasons, possibly. :D )

(It might also be worth noting that there are ANSI standards for SLMs; standards that designate the accuracy - among other characteristics - of different Types or Classes of SLMs. Most inexpensive SLMs do not fall into this category. They would be considered Type or Class 3 meters at best, if they conform to the ANSI standards at all.)

And, FWIW, the Grateful Dead used B&K microphones almost exclusively for many of their recordings; the same B&K microphones that, back then, were being used on almost all B&K sound level meters. ;)
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
I have owned and/or operated at least five of the Radio Shack meters in my career (maybe more). Without exception, I calibrated them and found each to be within 0.5 dB right out of the box.
Is that calibrated to a known standard and was off that much over the 20Hz-20kHz band? If so, not even RS claims this and others have found large errors at the low frequency section. Hence the correction tables on line.

Your 2 dB is good down to 50Hz and below this it increases.
 
B

bpape

Audioholic Chief
I think Jeff was referring more to just level measurement and matching based on white/pink noise - not specific frequency response measurements. One advantage of the RS meter is that there is at least a semi-accurate set of corrections freely available on the web if you want to do FR measurements.

Realistically, even with that, a lot of times you're measuring relative chage based on something you do in the room rather than actual response.

Bryan
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
Well Level Matching and background Noise, As well as noise that escapes the HT room.
As Bryan indicated, it will do you well for this, except perhaps the noise floor if you have a good room. The analog will repeat very well, so it can level match the channels very closely.
And, RS is everywhere, almost and not expensive.
 

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