speakers for an unusual system

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tgoyette

Audioholic Intern
Hey all, this is my first post on the forums after lurking for a few weeks soaking up some great info. I'm looking for a new set of stereo speakers in the 1k range, for 90% music use. I would be willing to go only a tiny bit higher in price, possibly up to 1200. My current setup is a little strange, a Denon DP 300F turntable to an Emotiva RSP 1 pre to a Yamaha RX 497 stereo receiver. The reason I have only the pre from Emotiva is I had planned to purchase a bundle of both the RSP 1 and the RPA 1, but the amp was sold out. I was also guilty of not doing enough research first and buying better speakers for the amps to push, as well as giving to impulse and buying a shiny new component that sounds great, but I really didn't need at the time. I'm trying to not do that this time around, so here I am asking you all who have infinitely more experience and knowledge than me.
Most of my listening is from my laptop (no external card, but it does have a SPDIF out that I set up with a "Y stereo" adapter to the AUX input of the Emotiva). My tastes center mainly on blues and rock, played at moderate volume to appease my roommates, with small amounts of jazz and world music thrown in. I have Boston cr67 bookshelf speakers that I am fairly happy with but I'm looking for a more detailed and full sound, leading me to look at floor standing speakers. Based on recommendations I've seen on this forum and a few others, the most popular choices seem to be B & W 600 series and RBH TK 5CT. Any other choices that would seem fitting to my setup? I found a dealer for B & W in my area, but dealers for RBH seem elusive and 'sketchy'. What do you all think?
 
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lawrencebinding

Audiophyte
Consider ANGSTROM

Oustanding speaer quality..great prices.. Mine towersare 10 years old and still crank very pure sound. What a great investment 1 yr out of school.
 
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Vanhoecke

Junior Audioholic
RBH makes great speakers. They generally market their products through local dealer/installers instead of big box stores. You can find a local RBH dealer in your area by using the dealer locator page in the RBH web site. If for some reason, you don't have any luck findig a dealer, give the RBH marketing folks a call. They will be glad to help you out.

I'm a local RBH dealer in the DC area. If you live anywhere around DC, I'd be happy to assist you, otherwise it would be best for you to contact a local RBH dealer. They will be better situated to provide you with service in your local area.

If you have any particular questions about RBH, I'd be happy to try and help you get an answer. :)
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
...I'm looking for a new set of stereo speakers in the 1k range, for 90% music use...but I'm looking for a more detailed and full sound, leading me to look at floor standing speakers.
I just ordered a pair of Def Tech BP10B for $700 (Retail $1,000) from my local DefTech dealer.

The Freq. Resp. looks great: 20Hz-20kHz +/-5dB @ 90dB w/m (Julian Hirsch/Stereo Review). They are solidly built with high quality material. More importanly, they sound fantastic. So if you are able to find these speakers to audition, I think you might just want to check them out.
 
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tgoyette

Audioholic Intern
thanks for the recommendations. It looks I'll be able to audition almost all of the speakers except for the HiVi D2.1SEs and the Dana 630s, both of which I had trouble finding more info on. With regards to tower v. bookshelf, is it safe to say that a bookshelf pair with a good sub is comparable to a pair of tower speakers? It seems to me that by the same logic as having separate pre/power amps and other components is 'better' than integrated components, that bookshelves with subs would be 'better' (more accurate, fuller?) than tower speakers.
 
Seth=L

Seth=L

Audioholic Overlord
tgoyette said:
SPDIF out that I set up with a "Y stereo" adapter to the AUX input of the Emotiva
In a word, "What?"

tgoyette said:
With regards to tower v. bookshelf, is it safe to say that a bookshelf pair with a good sub is comparable to a pair of tower speakers? It seems to me that by the same logic as having separate pre/power amps and other components is 'better' than integrated components, that bookshelves with subs would be 'better' (more accurate, fuller?) than tower speakers.
Yes, and no.;)

Some towers are great, some bookshelf speakers are great, as well as subwoofers. You just have to pic what sounds good to you. Say if you got the Polk LSi9s and an HSU subwoofer it would probably sound very good. The bass would be deeper with a subwoofer than with a traditional tower speaker. A tower speaker could be better rounded for music listening however, if this is to be a simple stereo setup. They could provide a pretty good low end, though not as low as a subwoofer, and take up less space than the bookshelf/subwoofer combo.

Bookshelf speakers are easier for a manufacturer to make less resonant cabinets, and it is far more common for tower speakers from the same series to have more cabinet resonance which adds coloration to the sound which someone might find pleasing, however most don't.

It is a confusing process for you because you also have to consider the power. You are using a lower to mid level receiver as your power amplifier. I would personally not power half the speakers suggested with it, especially the Polk LSis, as they are very difficult to drive and are not very efficient. Now if you get a used amplifier such as a Carver, Adcom, or Acurus on Audiogon or eBay instead of the Emotiva RPA-1, you would be able to open up your speaker choices. You should always choose speakers before amplification, because your speakers determine what amplifier you need. Since speakers dictate your sound, and an amplifier should not, it makes sense that you should chose speakers to fit your ears, then choose an amplifier to match the speakers.
 
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tgoyette

Audioholic Intern
Quote:
Originally Posted by tgoyette
SPDIF out that I set up with a "Y stereo" adapter to the AUX input of the Emotiva
In a word, "What?"
I didn't explain it very well sorry. My laptop, running on Vista, has a 1/8" stereo plug output labeled SPDIF. Using an adapter cord that converts a 1/8" stereo plug to 2 RCA plugs, I have the computer wired to the AUX 1 input of the Emotiva RSP 1.
Using the yamaha as my power amplifier is not at all ideal I agree. Going the used route on ebay or audiogon for a better piece is probably what I will end up doing. Because of monetary issues at the moment, however, I will have to upgrade one component at a time. Since I can demo most of these speakers using higher quality equipment at local stores, I should be able to get a feel for their overall potential.
 
Seth=L

Seth=L

Audioholic Overlord
I didn't explain it very well sorry. My laptop, running on Vista, has a 1/8" stereo plug output labeled SPDIF. Using an adapter cord that converts a 1/8" stereo plug to 2 RCA plugs, I have the computer wired to the AUX 1 input of the Emotiva RSP 1.
Using the yamaha as my power amplifier is not at all ideal I agree. Going the used route on ebay or audiogon for a better piece is probably what I will end up doing. Because of monetary issues at the moment, however, I will have to upgrade one component at a time. Since I can demo most of these speakers using higher quality equipment at local stores, I should be able to get a feel for their overall potential.
Ok. The SPDIF output isn't actually being used then. That output can be used as a digital port, but you would have to change the settings for it to do so. Since the RSP-1 is analog only you need to leave it set as it is, because SPDIF (digital) will not work with that preamp.

Yeah, your best bet is to look for a used amplifier on Ebay, Craigslist, or Audiogon.
 
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tgoyette

Audioholic Intern
I decided on the Polks, the prices I'm being quoted are all about 900$ for a pair though. Is there a website where I can get a set for 500$?
 
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chadnliz

Senior Audioholic
Definitive Tech make great speakers, fot HT they are a budget upper level no brainer, but not everyone likes them for music, they can be harsh sounding.
 
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chadnliz

Senior Audioholic
I would look in Vandersteen if you have the power, they are a serious music lovers speaker.
 
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John Bailey

Audioholic
Saturday Audio is selling a pair of 2Ce Sigs for $849. Really good price.
http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?spkrfull&1206478298
I would second the Vandersteen 2Ce Sigs. If that's a new price it's a good one. In my auditioning I felt the Vandersteens were second only to a pair of Magnepan 1.6 for musicality. Both were too big for my room, but they are great music speakers for the money. Generally you are looking used at this price point however.

John
 
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