Speaker help for a newbie.....

mazersteven

mazersteven

Audioholic Warlord
I'll see if I can find any of those in a show-room set up and see what they sound like.
I don't think you will find those subs in a show room. They are internet only.
 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
At the very least, you make me smile - guess I'll thank you for that too.
It seems that you're finally catching on.

Of course there is a correlation between what you pay and what you get, but is it so hard to believe that someone with no knowledge of the subject might not give it the priority it apparently needs?
I really can't believe that. Nobody is that naive. What color is the sky on your planet?

Others managed to give fairly good answers and steer me in the right direction without budget numbers - odd then that you'd find it so bewildering that I'd exclude them.
Reallly? Not in this thread, bud. If you re-read this thread you'll see that all you got before spitting out a price range was jokes. go ahead... check it out ... I'll wait.

Besides, I never said you were wrong for requesting a budget, I griped about your boorish method - again, others managed to get the point across without straining their sarcasm muscles.
Boorish? I guess when one has an over-rated self-importance like you do, my response might be considered boorish. Most simply found it funny and engaging.

You're clinging to this "light-hearted, friendly sarcasm" like some shipwrecked drifter on a log - afraid to admit it was anything but light-hearted or friendly for fear you'll drown. Listen we all make mistakes - I didn't know budget numbers were so important and you couldn't control yourself and came in like my mother-in-law on a PMS day. Just admit it was a bit over the top, or at the every least poorly presented as "friendly" and you'll feel all better about it.
I didn't make a mistake. In reading more into it than it deserved, you did. We're a bunch of (mainly) guys in a locker foom. If you can't take a friendly towel snap in the butt then you're in the wrong place. Grow a set. Most have seen stuff like that as a hearty slap on the back when welcoming a new guy into the fold. Nobody else ever ran away crying like you did though.

(re-read above bolded response. It's quite important)

Jokes about sleeping - Yea i saw those but ok with that. Why? because at least that guy made an attempt to show he was being funny.
Then why bring it up in the post where you were trying to drag me over the coals? Now who is graspng at straws?

This statement of yours "You don't know me, or anyone else here, well enough to take umbrage with what I, or we, say." makes absolutely no sense - you do realize that? The way in which people don't get offended by sarcasm is through familiarity with each other. This is pretty easily proved - You claimed your statements were light hearted and friendly sarcasm - assuming that's true, if I did know you better I'd probably have realized it and we wouldn't be having this conversation. It is the very fact that I don't know you that your statements were, or appeared to be, unfriendly and anything but light hearted. It is unfamiliarity that leads to misinterpretation which in turn leads to feeling offense, not the other way around. You may know audio but you might want to brush up on elements of social interaction.
Now you're getting long winded again. Had you lurked here for as long as you imply, you would have been familiar with the players on the team. Face it, you over-reacted. You chose to read an insult where most normal people in a new social environment would have taken it as the light hearted jibe that it was. But not you, Mr. self-important.

Sigh - do I really have to explain that not all elements of my post were directed specifically at you?
/Well, yeah. I didn't see anyone else mentioned in your hissy fit., ...Just widdle ole me :(

Hate to poke holes in your self importance bud but not everything written is about you. If you were confounded, perplexed or otherwise thrown into a downward spiral of confusion - I apologize and will make every effort point out what relates to you and what doesn't.
Hey, I'm not the one with a self-importance problem. It's you that seems to be having issues here. you made a funny and got mad when we ran with it.

Oh..my supposed "smug attitude" getting you down? ...now who is thin on the skin.
Nah. I'm used to it. You remind me of my first wife, but she had better legs.

[For clarity's sake, all of the text prior to this, does indeed pertain to you]

But I, or rather we, digress. This is after all a place for audio discussion and not the halls of mildly amusing yet utterly pointless banter.
Ah, now I see.

OK guys, put those towels down, wipe those smile off yer faces and get back to answering those questions!!! You're having entirely too much fun! Stop it or I'll have to dock your pay!

Utterly pointless banter? You must be new here. That's what keeps this place alive. Not people who actually think their questions are all consuming important.

Remember, we post here for mainly two reasons. To have fun and to help others by sharing our knowledge. Remember, nobody is paid here. If it ain't no fun, no answers are forthcoming.

Also, remember, there are mainly two types of posters here. Those that mainly ask questions, and those who mainly provide answers. For one who is among the latter, it behooves you to remember that those answers depend on the willingness of those on the other side to willingly provide them.

So In that vein I thank the respondents (yes even Markw) and will advise you what I end up with.
You're welcome.

Sounfs like you'll be busy for a while. You've got quite a list of products to audition. Listen to 'em all. Remember, tastes vary from person to person. Just because some like it, others may like another.

Have fun with all those internet purchases. Keep all the packing materials and be aware of their return policies beforehand. Some more unsolicited advice you probably never considered.
 
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Treozen

Enthusiast
Sounfs like you'll be busy for a while. You've got quite a list of products to audition. Listen to 'em all. Remember, tastes vary from person to person. Just because some like it, others may like another.

Have fun with all those internet purchases. Keep all the packing materials and be aware of their return policies beforehand. Some more unsolicited advice you probably never considered.
I always keep the packing - but I'll try a store purchase this time around.
 
mazersteven

mazersteven

Audioholic Warlord
I always keep the packing - but I'll try a store purchase this time around.
IMO your not going to come close to the sound quality of the speakers that I linked in the big box stores for the same money. This is just my personal opinion and might not be the opinion of the forum.

If your going to shop for speakers in the store. Look at

Bowers & Wilkins 685/686 speakers
 
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Treozen

Enthusiast
IMO your not going to come close to the sound quality of the speakers that I linked in the big box stores for the same money. This is just my personal opinion and might not be the opinion of the forum.

If your going to shop for speakers in the store. Look at

Bowers & Wilkins 685/686 speakers
I'd agree - Today I went around the local stores - not much in the way of dedicated audio suppliers - anyway, I figured I'd try find a few of the recommended brands, talk to the techs and listen to some set-ups. Unfortunately I pretty much struck out. Techs couldn't really tell me much save whats on the tag and the best brands I could find were Klipsch, Polk Audio and Bose - and I noticed that none of those were specifically recommended. I listened to them anyway - Polk Audio seemed the best of the three to my ear - No offense to anyone with Klipsch but I didn't like them at all - cant even put my finger on exactly why. About a zillion people told me Bose was the best - perhaps it was just the set up I listened to but I didn't think much of Bose at all. Granted all three were better than what i have now.

So its off the the world wide web I guess.
 
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Treozen

Enthusiast
Have we a winner?

Ok people - from all the suggestions thus far, and after some (mostly pointless) store auditions I'm narrowing in on these (thanks goes to mazersteven for the initial recommendation):

http://www.ascendacoustics.com/pages/products/speakers/cmt340m/cmt340m.html

and

http://www.ascendacoustics.com/pages/products/speakers/cmt340c/cmt340c.html

There were allot of good suggestions but after some research I think the Ascends fit the best. Here's why:

- Size: I like the fact that the mains are a "mini" tower. with the option of using a stand if I want to later

- Look & feel: Best as I can tell they will match very well with the room. Some of the other choices might present more of a challenge and unfortunately I don't have a dedicated theater room, so these have to sit in the main living room and look somewhat "inconspicuous".

- Ascend will give you 30 days to try them out and send back if you don't like them. Shipping appears to be free (for now) and so its almost as good as buying off the store shelf.

- These speakers appear to have either very similar or better frequency ranges and other various technologies than their class-mates, yet price seems little more digestible.

- I spent many hours reading feedback and comments on these - the overall consensus was that they vastly outperform both in expectation and class. Several people mentioned the Ascend's ability to outperform speakers in a much higher price bracket.

- If i decide to buy the whole set, and I might, I can manage a complete Ascend set up much easier than some of the other choices (based on price).

For now, these are my top picks. No decisions yet, but this is where I am so far.
 
Matt34

Matt34

Moderator
Ok people - from all the suggestions thus far, and after some (mostly pointless) store auditions I'm narrowing in on these (thanks goes to mazersteven for the initial recommendation):

http://www.ascendacoustics.com/pages/products/speakers/cmt340m/cmt340m.html

and

http://www.ascendacoustics.com/pages/products/speakers/cmt340c/cmt340c.html

There were allot of good suggestions but after some research I think the Ascends fit the best. Here's why:

- Size: I like the fact that the mains are a "mini" tower. with the option of using a stand if I want to later

- Look & feel: Best as I can tell they will match very well with the room. Some of the other choices might present more of a challenge and unfortunately I don't have a dedicated theater room, so these have to sit in the main living room and look somewhat "inconspicuous".

- Ascend will give you 30 days to try them out and send back if you don't like them. Shipping appears to be free (for now) and so its almost as good as buying off the store shelf.

- These speakers appear to have either very similar or better frequency ranges and other various technologies than their class-mates, yet price seems little more digestible.

- I spent many hours reading feedback and comments on these - the overall consensus was that they vastly outperform both in expectation and class. Several people mentioned the Ascend's ability to outperform speakers in a much higher price bracket.

- If i decide to buy the whole set, and I might, I can manage a complete Ascend set up much easier than some of the other choices (based on price).

For now, these are my top picks. No decisions yet, but this is where I am so far.
I think your making a good choice with the Ascends.;)
 
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