captiankirk28

Full Audioholic
Hi i was wondering what do you think the opptimal distance is to have your front speakers apart for perfect imaging, my chair where i sit is 9 ft away. The reason i am asking is my wife want to move everything onto a different wall and i would have more room to strech out, but if it is really not going to benifet my sound i dont think i want to go through the hassle.
 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
Theoretically, your listening position and the two main speakers should form the three points of an equilateral triangle.

In practice, it might be to your benefit to compromise on this rule.
 
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fractile

Junior Audioholic
For home theater sound I would experiment with the width, so that the sound doesn't sound like it's coming from Too far off the screen. For this reason 'they' recommend placing the L/R adjacent to the screen. Depending on the speakers' off-axis response, I don't know how close it has to actually be.
 
Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
You can also find some other good discussions (on this forum and elsewhere) by doing a search. I remember this being discussed on here last year.

Your speaker manuals might give a recommendation. My NHT 1.5 manual recommended a different ratio than what I've seen elsewhere.
 
Thirsty93

Thirsty93

Audioholic
I think that nht recommends your listening postion to be 1.5x the width of your speakers.
 
no. 5

no. 5

Audioholic Field Marshall
Hi i was wondering what do you think the opptimal distance is to have your front speakers apart for perfect imaging, my chair where i sit is 9 ft away.
I'm not sure what distance it comes out being (as I don't feel like doing the math), but if the left and right channels are around sixty degrees apart, it should be about optimum. As that is the layout used by recording studios.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
I'm not sure what distance it comes out being (as I don't feel like doing the math), but if the left and right channels are around sixty degrees apart, it should be about optimum. As that is the layout used by recording studios.
That would be an equilateral triangle:D Has to be.
 
lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
I always think it's best to have them 1/3rd equi distance along the the front axis of the theater.

This isn't necessarily the best sound, but in reallity most of those who run the setup and decoration of our homes have to be pleased.

With EQ it's really not a big deal IMO if you have them in the right general direction.

That's the beauty of EQ.
 
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jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
Hi i was wondering what do you think the opptimal distance is to have your front speakers apart for perfect imaging, my chair where i sit is 9 ft away. The reason i am asking is my wife want to move everything onto a different wall and i would have more room to strech out, but if it is really not going to benifet my sound i dont think i want to go through the hassle.
Along the lines of what's been said . . .

One very nice tweak, I find, is bringing out the speakers away from the front wall.

Now, it's usually just not possible with many persons, because who wants speakers sitting plop in the middle of a room, getting in the way, etc?

But, if you have space, it can* be amazing what an extra couple of feet away from a wall will do for even entry level speakers. The cool thing is that since many of us use length-wise room orientation, by bringing out the speakers, we often achieve something closer to an equilateral triangle simply as a side bonus (and often a nice one at that).

Ah, I wanted to add, not necessary by any means, and almost always impossible, but if you could get all of your speakers at the same distance, that would be very nice, and possibly give you the best chance of holographic imaging. As said, nearly always impossible, but maybe you can for the front three only . . .
 
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saint11

Audiophyte
I always think it's best to have them 1/3rd equi distance along the the front axis of the theater.

This isn't necessarily the best sound, but in reallity most of those who run the setup and decoration of our homes have to be pleased.

With EQ it's really not a big deal IMO if you have them in the right general direction.

That's the beauty of EQ.
God, do you mean literally 1/3rd? :)

Saint
 

captiankirk28

Full Audioholic
Well i ended up moving my system Sat. and i will say i think it sounds better not to mention it looks alot better (not so cramped up)

Thank you all for the advice and here is a pic after i changed and just look at my first pic in my sig to see the before and tell me what you think.

Kirk


 

captiankirk28

Full Audioholic
Well i ended up moving my system Sat. and i will say i think it sounds better not to mention it looks alot better (not so cramped up)

Thank you all for the advice and here is a pic after i changed and just look at my first pic in my sig to see the before and tell me what you think.

Kirk


By the way next weekend i will be cutting the wall to conceal the wires coming down from the tv. I also got 25ft of black nylon flex tube and ran all my speaker wire and all of my power wires in it and that really cleaned up the look behind everything and my wife is very happy about that so that makes me even more happy.:D

I also decided to put my tv up a bit higher on the wall and i think it is perfect i can lay back in my chair and can see it perfectwith out leaning foeward at all kind of like in the movie theater but better.:)
 
lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
God, do you mean literally 1/3rd? :)

Saint
That is a mixing of terms lol. I usually can't do that. Most walls are too short.

I actually move the center a tad closer and give it a higher gain. I like louder dialogue over the effects.
 
lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
By the way next weekend i will be cutting the wall to conceal the wires coming down from the tv. I also got 25ft of black nylon flex tube and ran all my speaker wire and all of my power wires in it and that really cleaned up the look behind everything and my wife is very happy about that so that makes me even more happy.:D

I also decided to put my tv up a bit higher on the wall and i think it is perfect i can lay back in my chair and can see it perfectwith out leaning foeward at all kind of like in the movie theater but better.:)
Your tv seems so small compared to the speakers and subwoofer. Looks like you could sell the center and put a matching tower in the middle. You seem to have enough distance below the tv. ;)
 
Mika75

Mika75

Audioholic
captiankirk28 - I have a suggestion :D

Swap the right speaker position with the sub, then swap the left speaker with the cd rack....now pull both fronts forward about another foot and add a little bit of toe-in towards the listening position. :cool:

(that sub is huge, I feel it sitting so close it could be messing with ur right speakers response!)

Re: the TV height, I prefer it lower like u had it b4 on the stand...but then u like to lie down soo.. :rolleyes:
 
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captiankirk28

Full Audioholic
captiankirk28 - I have a suggestion :D

Swap the right speaker position with the sub, then swap the left speaker with the cd rack....now pull both fronts forward about another foot and add a little bit of toe-in towards the listening position. :cool:

(that sub is huge, I feel it sitting so close it could be messing with ur right speakers response!)

Re: the TV height, I prefer it lower like u had it b4 on the stand...but then u like to lie down soo.. :rolleyes:
Thank you for the tip and i will try that out althoughmy system sounds really good so i dont know if it will make a diff. but it is worth a try.



-Kirk
 
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jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
Yeah, my instincts would also be to pull the mains further away from the front boundary, maybe widen them out, and toe them in. Who knows, but the only way to know is to try. Try pretending there is no such thing as aesthetics, WAF, or practicality for an hour or two, and find the best no-compromise placement possible. THEN let the aesthetics sensibilities come into play, and choose the best compromise.

+1 on the center matching tower if you are indeed leaving the display that high. Definitely, IMO.

If you do spread your speakers out (and obviously the sub ends up elsewhere), you may become more inclined to treat that right wall portion a bit (if you feel that the nearby reflection of energy makes the soundstage seem heavy there). Of course, treating first reflections is normally a good thing anyways. Cheers.
 

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