Soundproofing PYRAMID Foam from Ebay starting at $68!

Fredhizzle

Fredhizzle

Junior Audioholic
I will be getting a velodyne subwoofer sometime next week, and I was in the need for some sound treatment considering my HT is in my room and im sharing walls with my parents and my older brother. I read Haoleb's DIY article on sound absorbing acoustic panels and I was impressed. I was wondering if Ebays Pyramid foam really works the bid starts at 58 and its 2" Acoustic Pyramid Foam and come with a pack of 48) Pack of 2" x 12" x 12" heres the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/Soundproofing-2-Acoustic-Studio-PYRAMID-Foam-SP-DEAL_W0QQitemZ270308205216QQihZ017QQcategoryZ3278QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262#ebayphotohosting

Its sounds like too good to be true considering how expensive this stuff is.
its says its a legit because there store has a NRC rattings chart.
can some one help me out and tell me if this stuff will work effectively.

by the way how would i hang this stuff to my walls
 
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Seriously, I have no life.
I will be getting a velodyne subwoofer sometime next week, and I was in the need for some sound treatment considering my HT is in my room and im sharing walls with my parents and my older brother. I read Haoleb's DIY article on sound absorbing acoustic panels and I was impressed. I was wondering if Ebays Pyramid foam really works the bid starts at 58 and its 2" Acoustic Pyramid Foam and come with a pack of 48) Pack of 2" x 12" x 12" heres the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/Soundproofing-2-Acoustic-Studio-PYRAMID-Foam-SP-DEAL_W0QQitemZ270308205216QQihZ017QQcategoryZ3278QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262#ebayphotohosting

Its sounds like too good to be true considering how expensive this stuff is.
its says its a legit because there store has a NRC rattings chart.
can some one help me out and tell me if this stuff will work effectively.

by the way how would i hang this stuff to my walls
That kind of foam won't do much to keep sound from going through shared walls. That takes layers and mass. Plus, if the door doesn't have a good seal and is close to where the music is, it'll sneak in there, too. NRC is just a measure of how much sound isn't reflected, not how much is blocked. For that, you'd need a low STC (Sound Transmission Coefficient). Any bass notes that hit the walls and can be felt on the other side will reansmit them to the other room.

That kind of foam does a pretty good job of killing mid and high frequency reflections but I don't think you'll need 48 pieces unless your room is large.

Depending on how permanent you want them to be, you have many options. You can use a sheet of 1/4" plywood or Masonite and glue the foam to it or if you really want to block more bass, you could make a heavy wall section and cover one side with foam and place the section next to the shared wall.
 
Fredhizzle

Fredhizzle

Junior Audioholic
well said you answered all my questions. And my right center and left speaker do face my wall and my door. Do you think im better of doing it the way this member did his own acoustic panels http://www.haoleb.com/acousticpanels.htm

he says its absorbs sound in the 100hz frequencies..pretty good
..so if I do make homemade panels I should try to pack a lot of thick insulation as possible in my frame right?
 
just-some-guy

just-some-guy

Audioholic Field Marshall
your going to have to build another room, INSIDE of your room, and isolated from your current room. to get what you want. those items you are looking at are for the person INSIDE the sound room. and do pretty much nothing for the people OUTSIDE of the sound room.

google = sound proofing a room.
 
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Seriously, I have no life.
well said you answered all my questions. And my right center and left speaker do face my wall and my door. Do you think im better of doing it the way this member did his own acoustic panels http://www.haoleb.com/acousticpanels.htm

he says its absorbs sound in the 100hz frequencies..pretty good
..so if I do make homemade panels I should try to pack a lot of thick insulation as possible in my frame right?
First of all, I can just about guarantee that the burlap will pull off of the wood, or has already. Second, the ability of a material to absorb, dampen, reflect or diffuse sound is directly dependent on its surface area. There are many ways to treat a room for different frequencies and one of the biggest factors that will determine how you do this is your budget. If you really want to keep the sound from going to other parts of the house, the best way it the "room inside a room", as was mentioned. That's expensive and it'll also require a door from the listening room to the outside world, with weatherstripping and its own HVAC ducting. BTW- the ducting would need to be isolated from the HVAC for the rest of the house and this adds to the expense.

There two main ways to transfer sound are airborne and structure-borne and they should be self-explanatory. If you build a room in a room, it minimizes both. If you can't realistically do that, minimizing the structure-borne transmission will help a lot. Nobody likes to be on one end of a house and having the floor or walls thumping in time to the music. Being in an adjacent room is even worse because it will have some of the airborne sound, too. If your door is hollow-core, it's not doing much more than acting like a drum head. Your walls are doing the same thing. Adding a layer of drywall will help. If you can, put a layer of particle board and a layer of drywall over the existing drywall, or even better- put a layer of insulation on the existing wall, build another wall and mount it away from the original wall, with drywall on the back, insulation between the studs, and the particle board/drywall surface. Install a solid core door with weatherstrips all around, including the bottom. Keep the new wall and door physically separate from the original wall and door. This will help a lot, but if you make a cover for the supply and return air, you'll keep even more from getting to the rest of the house. Unfortunately, you'll be getting hotter or colder because of this. De-coupling your speakers from the floor will help.
 
WmAx

WmAx

Audioholic Samurai
Warning: the foam at that link has fraudulent NRC numbers. RealTraps measured this vendor's foam and it did not come close to it's claimed NRC ratings. But, most 'acoustic' foams IME are garbage. I have only come across two vendors so far with high performance foam: Auralex and EchoBusters(which don't sell the foam by itself - but only in pre-finished treatments).

If you want high performance absorption treatments at low cost, you should DIY them using high density fiberglass or mineral wool boards that are in the 4-8lb/ft^3 density range.

-Chris
 
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