Sony Wireless DVD Dream System DAV-FX100W

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BulletBob

Enthusiast
Hey holics,

I know the HTIB doesn't constitute an audioholic but stick with me on this one. I already set up my home theater. I went with the 60" Sony SXRD. Pioneer Elite receiver and DVD player, and an Axiom speaker system w/ dual subs. I'm very satisfied with the advice I received on this site and it worked out great. I put a 52" Mitsubishi Rear Projection in my bedroom. It's a large master bedroom and I wanted a modest Surround Sound set up in there as well. They say couples that have TV's in their bedrooms sex life suffers. I've been married for 13 years and nothing can hurt us at this point! LOL-J.K. Back to the point-

I bought the Sony 5.1 Wireless (not really) Sony dream system. A HTIB that includes a non powered sub. I've bought a HTIB before and the sub had the amp/crossover in it and it was the hub for the speaker connection. Meaning I couldn't switch it out. The connection between the HTIB was exclusive! For the HTIB I'm inquiring about the receiver will be hub for the speaker wires to exit from. That means the 1000 watts will be divided out and possibly affect the strength of the sub right? Here's my QUESTION-If I don't like the power or lack there of coming from the sub could I replace it with a powered Sub? I know powered subs have RCA connections right? Meaning my thought is that you don't just run a speaker wire between it and the receiver when it's powered. If the sub needs more than just a speaker wire connection than I probably won't be able to switch out the non powered sub for the powered one huh? Even though I wanted a smooth sound for the bedroom I'm addicted to a deep sub sound. I paid a $1000 for the HTIB and I'm wondering if that'll give me any flexibility with it's performance.

So to finalize this long *** post-Can you switch out a NON powered sub for a stronger/larger powered sub since a subwoofer receives just the signal anyway right(wrong?)? Thanks for your help. I want to jump on eBay and make the upgrade if it's possible so if you can get back to me a.s.a.p-you'll be doing me a favor. Thanks for your time.

Bullet
 
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BulletBob

Enthusiast
Simplifying the question I think?

Holics,

The Pioneer Elite reference was my attempt at legitimizing my set up in the HT room. It has nothing to do with the question. I was trying to show that the HTIB wasn't my first choice but it did fit the budget for my surround sound in the master bedroom. I explained (tried to) that I had a HTIB before that had the sub linked with the amp/crossover. All of the speakers connected to it (the sub). The sub was weak but it was an exclusive part for that Samsung HTIB. It was the hub for every bit of power in the system and for the speaker connections. Samsung made it the hub so that no part could be interchanged with non Samsung products I guess? Maybe just paranoia setting in? LOL

The HTIB in question is the Sony Wireless DVD Dream System DAV-FX100W. The question in simpler terms is: Can the sub included in this HTIB be replaced with Sony SA-WX700 Sony Powered Subwoofer? That is the most detailed version I could give of my muddy first attempt at tech support! Thank you for taking the time to check this out. If you could simply refer to the Sony HTIB for specs-check the Sony sub that I want to swap out specs-and tell me if it can be done? Thanks again.

I'd love to make the switch as soon as you give me the thumbs up.

Bullet
 
mulester7

mulester7

Audioholic Samurai
BulletBob said:
Holics,

The Pioneer Elite reference was my attempt at legitimizing my set up in the HT room. It has nothing to do with the question. I was trying to show that the HTIB wasn't my first choice but it did fit the budget for my surround sound in the master bedroom. I explained (tried to) that I had a HTIB before that had the sub linked with the amp/crossover. All of the speakers connected to it (the sub). The sub was weak but it was an exclusive part for that Samsung HTIB. It was the hub for every bit of power in the system and for the speaker connections. Samsung made it the hub so that no part could be interchanged with non Samsung products I guess? Maybe just paranoia setting in? LOL

The HTIB in question is the Sony Wireless DVD Dream System DAV-FX100W. The question in simpler terms is: Can the sub included in this HTIB be replaced with Sony SA-WX700 Sony Powered Subwoofer? That is the most detailed version I could give of my muddy first attempt at tech support! Thank you for taking the time to check this out. If you could simply refer to the Sony HTIB for specs-check the Sony sub that I want to swap out specs-and tell me if it can be done? Thanks again.

I'd love to make the switch as soon as you give me the thumbs up.

Bullet
.....Bob, most of us here have limited experience with packages where the satellites run out of an unpowered sub....the full range amplified signals run to the sub, where the signals are cut to be produced by the sub, say 80 hz down, and 80 hz up goes on to the satellites....there's your problem switching out an unpowered sub for a powered sub, the going on to the satellites....but, some powered subs accept speaker wire carrying the amplified signals, and send say 80 up on to the satellites....that would be your only hope in this situation as I see it....some of the guys here have such typed powered subs and need to comment.....
 
jcPanny

jcPanny

Audioholic Ninja
Upgrade to powered sub

If the powered sub has "speaker level" connections then the upgrade might work. You cannot connect or adapt the speaker level signal from the HTIB to a line level RCA sub input.
 
mulester7

mulester7

Audioholic Samurai
.....Bob, we need to know how your Sony HTIB sub and speakers are wired from the Sony HTIB receiver....
 
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BulletBob

Enthusiast
HTIB reciever connects to sub via speaker wire. NO RCA - Can it be replaced?

.....Bob, we need to know how your Sony HTIB sub and speakers are wired from the Sony HTIB receiver....

Holic,

The reciever is also a 5 disc DVD changer. The channels via speaker wire go out to each speaker from the DVD/amp/reciever including the SUB. There's NO rca connection between the SUB and the Reciever. The sub included in the HTIB is passive. The SUB I want to replace it with is powered. It's just speaker wire that connects the HTIB Sub to the reciever. Can a powered sub be connected to this reciever with only speaker wire? Do you have to have an RCA hook-up? I wish Sony could break it down better than me. Thanks for your patience. I appreciate your help.

Bullet
 
mulester7

mulester7

Audioholic Samurai
BulletBob said:
Can a powered sub be connected to this reciever with only speaker wire?
.....Bob, you can use a powered sub that accepts speaker-wire from the HTIB receiver, but, the receiver will be sending the signal cut for the unpowered sub that came with the package....the cut should be around 80 though, and that should be acceptable....if the receiver is sending higher than 80, you can cut it lower at the powered sub....I'd say go for it......
 
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BulletBob

Enthusiast
That's the answer in plain English. TY

Friend,

I should've re-phrased it and said: Can I hook up a powered Sub in the place of the passive sub? Meaning can the speaker wire connection just go into the powered Sub that i've bought to replace it? You said yes-All I have to do is connect the powered sub up using the speaker wire feed from the HTIB reciever and then tweek it if needed. That answered all my questions and I thank all of you for the input. This answer makes sense to me and that is an acomplishment all in it's own! LOL TY

mulester7 said:
.....Bob, you can use a powered sub that accepts speaker-wire from the HTIB receiver, but, the receiver will be sending the signal cut for the unpowered sub that came with the package....the cut should be around 80 though, and that should be acceptable....if the receiver is sending higher than 80, you can cut it lower at the powered sub....I'd say go for it......
 

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