Seriously, what do you think (receiver)

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Youzer

Enthusiast
I saw this thread previously posted but there were no replies. Help us out!

I currently am running an older Panasonic HT box set receiver. But it has been acting up lately, enough to the point of me replacing it. For the past six months I have been upgrading my system piece by piece. As of now I am running two Klipsch RF-35s as fronts and an RC - 7 as the center. My rears and sub are from the Panasonic box but will also be replaced in the near future.

I am told that that Yamaha and Sony are too Bright for the Klipschs'. But what about Harman Kardan (HK 7300 or DPR 2005) or Denon 3805?

Are these good matches? Let me Know..

Thank you.
 
Yamahaluver

Yamahaluver

Audioholic General
Denon, SONY, Pioneer would be nice match, audition them and see what suits your ears.
 
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Youzer

Enthusiast
So last night I ended up going to the audio store and compared Denon, Yamaha, and Pioneer. Yamaha is out. Denon sounded "ok", which surprised me due to the amount of praise I have read about them. Even more surprising to me was the fat that the Pioneer elite model sounded great. The sales clerk went on to say I should try to find receivers that use a (forgive my spelling) (sounds like) "Mas fet" amp. I also still need to find a place to test some Harman Kardan.

What do you all think?

Once again thanks for the help.
 
Rob Babcock

Rob Babcock

Moderator
It can be tough to make decisions based on demos in-store, not only because it'll sound different at home but also because stores often don't provide very good demos. Frequently things are set up incorrectly/improperly, speaker positioning is usually terrible, the tone controls often used excessively, etc. And many stores will make sure the setup favores the models they want to sell (not necessarily the most expensive, but with the best profit margins).

So many questions here are "what should I buy" types, but it's awfully hard to really answer that. That doesn't mean you shouldn't ask, just that I can tell you what I'd buy but you're the one that has to listen to it. Specifying a price range also would help us advise you.

To be brutally honest, there are differences in the brands & models out there that could matter to a discerning listener, but almost everyone makes a decent model that would serve the average listener very well. This is a great time to be getting into HT, as most companies make superb units in the $400-$500 range. And in the $1k range, the recievers begin to compete strongly with separates.

If you believe MosFets have a particular sound, company literature can tell you which models use them in the output stage. Or, look for a model with preamp outs and add whatever type of amps you like.

Certainly the biggest upgrade will come from replacing the HTIB sub & surrounds. If you have Klipsch mains & center, then by all means by Klipsch surrounds. You might look into a Klipsch sub, but I think for the money you'd be better of looking elsewhere. Depending on your budget, Adire, HSU & SVS make very poten subs, and the new Outlaw Audio sub (a collaberation with Dr. Hsu) is a good sub, too.
 
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Youzer

Enthusiast
Thank you for your responses. I appreciate any help I can get. I did replace my back speakers last night. I went in to look at receivers and came out with some Klipsch RB-35s! They were on clearance I couldn't believe my luck!

As for the receiver I am looking to spend no more than $1200 - $1500. I am looking to multi zone in a future house and want to at least have the option, while still having a kickin' main system.

I am in all of your hands for advice. It is hard for me to get around due to my visual impairment. So I look forward to hearing advice so I am not starting from ground zero.
 
Rob Babcock

Rob Babcock

Moderator
Cool. That's about the best you should expect- a good knowledge base to begin your search. You're budget is great; for that price you can really get a nice receiver. Given that amount of money I'd buy a Denon 3805, but if that one didn't really blow you away, Pioneer does make some nice Elites in that range. I've always sorta had a low opinion of Pioneer, but my mind was changed when I bought a Pioneer Elite DV-45A Universal DVD player. Since then I've bough 4 ( :eek: ) more Pioneer players, and I must say they really make stellar DVD machines. As I got to looking at them, I'll admit to admiration for all their Elite products, particularly TVs.
 
Rex

Rex

Audioholic
Rob Babcock said:
Cool. That's about the best you should expect- a good knowledge base to begin your search. You're budget is great; for that price you can really get a nice receiver. Given that amount of money I'd buy a Denon 3805, but if that one didn't really blow you away, Pioneer does make some nice Elites in that range. I've always sorta had a low opinion of Pioneer, but my mind was changed when I bought a Pioneer Elite DV-45A Universal DVD player. Since then I've bough 4 ( :eek: ) more Pioneer players, and I must say they really make stellar DVD machines. As I got to looking at them, I'll admit to admiration for all their Elite products, particularly TVs.
I will give the elite DVD a look. Im somewhat confused about which to buy.
 
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ericb

Audioholic Intern
I agree. I always had a lower opinion of Pioneer as well and personally was set out to buy the Denon 3805 and no salesman could convice ME to walk away with a pioneer. I dont know your speakers but if they are very detailed, the pioneer is warmer and would be a better match. I found the Denon to be nice and had a few more bells and whistles, (none that I needed) but the warmth of the Pioneer Elite receiver changed my opinion, and was a lower price :) I later matched it up with the elite dvd player, and as Rob mentioned, WOW!
 
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Polkfan

Audioholic
Was wondering how the receivers were compared? Did each go through the same speakers? And was each receiver set at 0 bass/trebel? The differences between each could merely be a function of the tone controls. I would demo them flat before making a decision.
 
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Youzer

Enthusiast
Thank you all so much.

Your advice has been very helpful. Just to show what a rookie audiholic/phile I am I didn't even think to ask to hear each receiver at a flat level. Well, it looks like I am heading back to the store! I am thikning it is between the Denon 2805/3805, the HK AVR 7300/ DPR 2005, and the Pioneer Elite series (don't know the numbers yest). If you have any comments on any of these models I owuld love to hear them.
 
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radaray58

Audioholic Intern
I like HK

Hi Youzer,

I settled on a Harman-Kardon AVR630 and have been very pleased with it. Going up to the 7300 will give you upconversion to component output from all video sources, which is a convienience I would have liked. Besides that and the increased power (125w/channel, I believe), I think it's pretty similar to the 630 which can be had for $800 to $850 from an authorized online dealer. You can see them at Circuit City, but they might not have a 7300 on display. A lot of high end dealers have dropped H-K since they started selling through Circuit City. It's all politics really. Their product is as good as always, but how can those guys hang onto their elite status if they are selling something that Circuit City sells? That's straight from the mouth of my speaker salesman that sold HK right along with Denon, Macintosh, and Integra up to a year or so ago.

I'm not putting down the Denon or anything else. I just liked the sound of the H-K and my friend from work has had good experience with them over the years, so I put some stock in that. I also REALLY like the styling compared to the what else is out there.

Mine is paired with a Definitive Technology speaker system. It sounds smooth as silk to me with tons of bass. I'm not sure how it would sound with the Klipsch. Good luck
 
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