SEAS Odin MkIII, A dream comes true......

Hondasnl

Hondasnl

Audioholic Intern
Some information of the original kit:

Odin MK3
The Odin Mk3 is a completely redesigned version of the very popular Odin kit, utilizing the latest drive unit technologies from the Excel product line.
This kit uses two W18E001 woofers and a single T25CF002 "MILLENNIUM" tweeter mounted in a D'Appolito configuration.

The cabinet is a bass reflex design with the vent placed in the rear.
This directs any potential vent noises away from the listener, and allows for minimum baffle area in the front.
The pvc port tube is supported by an internal baffle which helps maintain equal air flow on each end of the tube, and also serves as additional cabinet bracing.
The port tuning frequency is 31Hz.

The crossover network is conventional except for a parallel circuit which supresses the response peak due to the magnesium cone.
The crossover frequency is 2.5kHz.

The Odin Mk3 was designed by Dr. Joseph D'Appolito, and was developed as a companion kit to the Thor transmission line system.

He offers the following comments regarding the performance of the Odin MK3:

"The vented box is tuned about 15% lower than the ubiquitous QB3 alignment to yield a better damped bass response.
Several hundred hours of laboratory testing and listening have gone into this system.
You literally can't tell where the woofers leave off and the tweeter begins."
 
Hondasnl

Hondasnl

Audioholic Intern
I've made some visual modifications, it will be a floorstanding speaker.
 
Hondasnl

Hondasnl

Audioholic Intern
It's my third DIY speaker set and it will be the best I ever built.
 
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Hondasnl

Hondasnl

Audioholic Intern
In the next post there is a link to the report with a lot of pics in it.

Have fun!
 
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Hondasnl

Hondasnl

Audioholic Intern
The As-Built drawings:

 
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Rickster71

Rickster71

Audioholic Spartan
Nice!

I like the crossover in it's own separate compartment.
 
ParadigmDawg

ParadigmDawg

Audioholic Overlord
Nice looking speakers; you build them for yourself or are you going to be selling some?
 
Hondasnl

Hondasnl

Audioholic Intern
Nice looking speakers; you build them for yourself or are you going to be selling some?
Hi Greg, nice to hear you !
Yes I build them for myself :)
But if the time is there and I want to build something else, I'll sell them.

Kind regards,

Hondasnl
 
davidtwotrees

davidtwotrees

Audioholic General
Very Nice!
Do you listen to two channel music, or are these used as front speakers in a 5.1 Home Theater setup?
 
Hondasnl

Hondasnl

Audioholic Intern
Very Nice!
Do you listen to two channel music, or are these used as front speakers in a 5.1 Home Theater setup?
Hi David :)

I use them for my two channel music setup.

Greetings from The Netherlands ;)
 
jaxvon

jaxvon

Audioholic Ninja
Too bad you'll still have tons of midrange resonance...
 
davidtwotrees

davidtwotrees

Audioholic General
Hi David :)

I use them for my two channel music setup.

Greetings from The Netherlands ;)
Hello! What kind of gear do you have pushing them?

I have a friend in Delfzjil, The Netherlands. Are you close to that?
 
WmAx

WmAx

Audioholic Samurai
:D I can't hear them, my ears are not that good :D :p
In fact, I would bet you could easily hear the resonances if pressed to do so. I find typically, people just never notice them because they assume it is part of 'speaker sound'. However, when I have presented people with opportunities to compare a non-resonant reference to the standard resonant one, the resonance seems to become obvious. There seems to be no special hearing required; simply an opportunity to be exposed to a pure reference. However, once used to resonant free system, one seems to more easily recognize resonance when it is present. Personally, I can not stand most speakers, partially because of this issue. Sadly, most speakers (even so-called high end) seem to be horribly resonant. Floyd Toole did extensive research on resonance audibility, and it is no small issue to brush aside if high fidelity is truly desired. Based on the cabinet schematics you posted here, I would expect a high degree of timbre distortion to be present, due purely to the cabinet panel resonances. To produce a cabinet with low acoustic output requires an extreme solution.

-Chris
 
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Hondasnl

Hondasnl

Audioholic Intern
Maybe you're right Chris :cool:.
It always can be better.
But they sounds great to me :).
It's nearly a copy of the original cabinet, the volume is also the same.
Only it's a floorstanding speaker.
 
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Hondasnl

Hondasnl

Audioholic Intern
In fact, I would bet you could easily hear the resonances if pressed to do so. I find typically, people just never notice them because they assume it is part of 'speaker sound'. However, when I have presented people with opportunities to compare a non-resonant reference to the standard resonant one, the resonance seems to become obvious. There seems to be no special hearing required; simply an opportunity to be exposed to a pure reference. However, once used to resonant free system, one seems to more easily recognize resonance when it is present. Personally, I can not stand most speakers, partially because of this issue. Sadly, most speakers (even so-called high end) seem to be horribly resonant. Floyd Toole did extensive research on resonance audibility, and it is no small issue to brush aside if high fidelity is truly desired. Based on the cabinet schematics you posted here, I would expect a high degree of timbre distortion to be present, due purely to the cabinet panel resonances. To produce a cabinet with low acoustic output requires an extreme solution.

-Chris

Dear Chris,

Is there something I can do to reduce the resonances?
Do you have any advise, such as extra wool in the cabinet?
Please be informed that they now sounds good enough to me here.
But it can always better.

Kind regards, Marcus The Netherlands
 
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