?'s on Yamaha receiver & sub out.

[KEW]

I am thinking about buying a Yamaha RX-797 stereo receiver.
This receiver has both pre-amp out/main amp in and a subwoofer output.

1) Would the subwoofer output by-pass all tone controls (bass/treble/loudness)?

2) Would an equalizer placed between the pre-out/main-in effect the subwoofer signal?

3) On the Hsu site, they recommend Onkyo or HK units for use with their subwoofers. Any speculation on why Yamaha, NAD, Denon, etc are not on his list?

4) Are there any concerns or reasons the Yamaha RX-797 is a poor choice in the $300-$400 price range?

TIA,
Kurt

 

[bandphan]

I am thinking about buying a Yamaha RX-797 stereo receiver.
This receiver has both pre-amp out/main amp in and a subwoofer output.

1) Would the subwoofer output by-pass all tone controls (bass/treble/loudness)? No

2) Would an equalizer placed between the pre-out/main-in effect the subwoofer signal? are you talking about the DCX Does the 797 have a sub out?


3) On the Hsu site, they recommend Onkyo or HK units for use with their subwoofers. Any speculation on why Yamaha, NAD, Denon, etc are not on his list? No reason, except that some of their stereo receivers have sub outs

4) Are there any concerns or reasons the Yamaha RX-797 is a poor choice in the $300-$400 price range?

TIA,
Kurt

Ive used this unit in several installs and have had no issues

 

[KEW]

1) Would the subwoofer output by-pass all tone controls (bass/treble/loudness)? No I was thinking that the bass boost from loudness and a subwoofer might not work well together. Does it?

2) Would an equalizer placed between the pre-out/main-in effect the subwoofer signal? are you talking about the DCX Does the 797 have a sub out? I don't know what the DCX is! Yes the 797 has a sub out (see link to photo below)

photos (I can't seem to define which photo comes up, but if you look at the left side of the back, it is just below the couplers between the pre/main).

3) On the Hsu site, they recommend Onkyo or HK units for use with their subwoofers. Any speculation on why Yamaha, NAD, Denon, etc are not on his list? No reason, except that some of their stereo receivers have sub outs

4) Are there any concerns or reasons the Yamaha RX-797 is a poor choice in the $300-$400 price range?
Thanks!

 

[bandphan]

1) Would the subwoofer output by-pass all tone controls (bass/treble/loudness)? No I was thinking that the bass boost from loudness and a subwoofer might not work well together. Does it?

2) Would an equalizer placed between the pre-out/main-in effect the subwoofer signal? are you talking about the DCX Does the 797 have a sub out? I don't know what the DCX is! Yes the 797 has a sub out (see link to photo below)

photos (I can't seem to define which photo comes up, but if you look at the left side of the back, it is just below the couplers between the pre/main).

3) On the Hsu site, they recommend Onkyo or HK units for use with their subwoofers. Any speculation on why Yamaha, NAD, Denon, etc are not on his list? No reason, except that some of their stereo receivers have sub outs

4) Are there any concerns or reasons the Yamaha RX-797 is a poor choice in the $300-$400 price range?
Thanks!

Yes the signal that boosted will be applied to the outputs
I thought the eq you were looking at is the dcx2496
Let me check the manual on the 797 and how the sub crossover is applied, as it might not be variable and using a unit like the dcx for controlling the sub might be very useful


edit: the appears to be no crossover and the sub line is full range. Also i forgot to mention that modes like pure direct will by pass all applied boosting and cutting.

 

[KEW]

Thanks for your responses!

Perhaps the lack of a by-pass filter or other means to tailor the subwoofer output is why Hsu does not have Yamaha on their list? Does that sound reasonable? I think I read that some receivers have Small, Medium, or Large settings for the main speakers which varies the output to the sub?

 

[bandphan]

Thanks for your responses!

Perhaps the lack of a by-pass filter or other means to tailor the subwoofer output is why Hsu does not have Yamaha on their list? Does that sound reasonable? I think I read that some receivers have Small, Medium, or Large settings for the main speakers which varies the output to the sub?

Since the units are made for 2ch, most do not even include a sub output. Adding a external crossover between the sub and mains would be ideal, but not possible for the mains in your case without adding another amp. What speakers are you running and have you considered purchasing an AVR opposed to a receiver?

 

[KEW]

What speakers are you running and have you considered purchasing an AVR opposed to a receiver?

I'm gonna date myself here.
I have three pairs of speakers. All are "fullrange" speakers. I'm not sure which I will add the subwoofer to.
Epicure EPI-100. These are 2 way bookshelf speakers with 8 or 10" woofers. These have the weakest bass.
Bose 901. Medium bass.
Acoustic Research AR-3a. Three way speaker with 12" woofers. The base is pretty solid on these, but I'm sure they would benefit from a subwoofer.

On the AVR, I assumed I'd be paying for the extra channel wattage and video processing which I don't expect to use.

Thanks,
Kurt

 

[KEW]

Just for the archives, I got this response from Dr Hsu on the recommendation:
"Regarding our general recommendation on receivers, it refers to receivers with bass management. We liked units with 24 dB/Oct low pass filters, and some Yamahas have only 18 dB/Oct. This is moot because the stereo receivers you are looking at do not have built-in crossovers. You will be using the crossover in the sub."