Room treatment advice needed, time to try to make some improvements!

[emorphien]

My room is a 12x12x8' room (roughly, it's not perfectly a square). Yes, it is squareish . I'm looking to improve a couple things for my two channel music system.

While this is my listening room, it's also my bedroom so I can't and don't want to go out of control treating the room. Bass is good enough for now surprisingly, so I'm not looking to go for a bass trap right now. I'll just pretend the bed does a good job because I don't have room for a bass trap anyway and my speakers start to taper off around 40Hz.

Wall panels would also be tricky in my room however there is space along the front wall behind the speakers. I'm interested in those triangle shaped corner traps that mount along the ceiling corners as a first step if they will help with what I want to address. I have a reverb/slap echo problem which is exaggerating and muddling some higher frequency content I think.

I am not averse to DIY but I recall seeing a brand that sold various traps for a very reasonable price (not GIK, someone else) and they had a corner trap a fair bit less than $50. Since I don't have space or likely tools to make traps that seems like an option. I'm looking for them now but if anyone else might know who I'm talking about let me know!

 

[Tomorrow]

Perhaps you are referring to the Eighth Nerve panels that Rob Babcock had in the Classified section recently. Look at http://www.eighthnerve.com/.

 

[emorphien]

I'm fairly sure that's not the site, they look considerably more expensive than what I saw before anyway. Echobusters has some but they were more than the ones I had seen before. I'll look a little further though.

Thanks for responding!


edit: Well they might be in budget, but they don't list a price. I'll have to contact them about the Response series corners.

On that note, can anyone help me on deciding whether the ceiling corner traps (the triangular ones) are the right approach for my echo/reverbs? As far as I can tell it's a good, non-intrusive way to take a first stab at taming them.

 

[AndrewLyles]

Perhaps you are referring to the Eighth Nerve panels that Rob Babcock had in the Classified section recently. Look at http://www.eighthnerve.com/.

Any idea how these compare to other acoustic panels...GIKs for example?

 

[Tomorrow]

Any idea how these compare to other acoustic panels...GIKs for example?

Sorry, I can't help. Perhaps Glenn or others with acoustic room treatment expertise will chime in with their assistance. The acoustic guys are generally very helpful here on AH. However, I don't think they want to get into a "mine vs. theirs" kind of post.

 

[emorphien]

However, I don't think they want to get into a "mine vs. theirs" kind of post.

I hope not!

Hopefully they'll pop in with some useful information.

 

[Glenn Kuras]

"I'm interested in those triangle shaped corner traps that mount along the ceiling corners as a first step if they will help with what I want to address. I have a reverb/slap echo problem which is exaggerating and muddling some higher frequency content I think."

Are you sure you are not thinking of our Tri Trap we have? Hope that does not come off like salesmen, but it sure does to me.

I would think starting with bass trapping in the front corners is a nice start. Yes it is best to put in more, just covering the front corners will help out a lot. Also you may want to think about the first reflections on the side walls and back wall if possible.

"Any idea how these compare to other acoustic panels...GIKs for example?"

OURS ARE BETTER.
As someone else said I really am not into the whole ours vs. there’s thing. One thing though, I don't see any lab numbers on there site. Does anyone know if they have them? Maybe I am just over looking it or something?

Glenn

 

[emorphien]

No, not the tri traps. I looked at those however I'm not sure if that's the best place for me to be starting. That's a triangular cylinder, the things I'm talking about aren't cylinders.

I'm working with a difficult room, I can't really do side walls in here because of windows & doors so I'm just going to try to do what I can do to get a modicum of improvement. Back walls are a bit of a problem as well.

As it stands, I want to tame mid to high frequencies more than bass right now, as those seem to be the bigger problem.

Thanks though

PS. the corner thingys I'm thinking of look like the triangles in the top corners of the walls as you can see here http://www.eighthnerve.com/products.html

The Tri-trap would probably work as well, I'm undecided about what to do since I am not going to be spending to run them up the whole wall and I can only put them at one side of the front wall because at the other side the door from the adjacent wall is in the way. The triangle-corner things would fit in all four corners, wondering if they'll help in the carpeted bedroom with the usual bedroom furniture (desk, chair, bed, etc).

 

[Nick250]

Tri Traps made a huge improvement in my system, highly recommended. I don't know about the others mentioned in the thread. I suggest you send a schematic of your room to one of the vendors who participate in this forum and and you will get handle on what you might work for you. The folks at GIK were helpful to me.

Nick

 

[emorphien]

I'll do the schematic later today. Unfortunately even with that what I should do and what I can do may not be the same thing.

 

[Glenn Kuras]

I'll do the schematic later today. Unfortunately even with that what I should do and what I can do may not be the same thing.

If you do send that to us I would also send pictures of the room.

Glenn

 

[bpape]

May I suggest a 2'x4' panel straddling around the horizontal wall/ceiling intersections. That will help with bass response and also get some general decay control in the mids and highs without using a lot of space down at your living level.

Bryan

 

[highfigh]

If you have slap echo, I doubt anything in the corners will help- this is caused by your speakers firing into a wall and the sound being reflected before it reaches your ears. That happens on flat surfaces.

BTW- you show your room's dimensions as 12' x 12' x 8' and then say "it's not quite a square". Even if the dimensions are only close and not exact, it's a square for all practical purposes. What it is not, is a cube.

If you can place panels on the wall between the speakers, it would be a good place to start, but seeing a diagram would help, a lot. If you centered your speakers on one wall, move them to one side, a little. Could be 6", or a foot, but it can make a difference.

If the speakers aren't far from the side walls, I would start
with a few panels on the back wall and on the side walls, where the first reflection occurs (this is easy to see, using a mirror and having someone move it so you can see the speaker's reflection in the mirror). Depending on where you sit, this may be all you need but if you sit at the back wall, you may need a panel where the right speaker reflects from the left wall and where the left reflects from the right wall. Doesn't need to be large, just needs to be there.

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

Digging out graves much? The thread is 8 years old

 

[highfigh]

Digging out graves much? The thread is 8 years old

It's apparently a hobby of mine.