Rockets vs Axiom!!

[cka69335]

I’ve been reading the reviews on these, and both sound comparable, however AV123 is having a SALE If you own one of these speakers, can you please give me the 411 on them?

My B-Day is coming up and I want to hint the wife on what web site to browse.

Thanks,
Chris.

 

[agarwalro]

They are both very capable speakers manufacturers. Which ones in particular are you comparing?

 

[LottaKash]

ABOUT AXIOM vs. ROckets

This is my 2cents about these. I have Axiom m3's, they are the outdoor ones called" Alongonquins". They were used for awhile as indoor mains. They are accurate as hell and the bass is very ok without a sub. Then MY av123 x-ls's and x-cs and x-sub came. I moved the m3 outdoors. All I can say is this. The Axioms sound very bright compared to 123's. the 123s are the botton of the line. I am retired and on a fixed income. But, let me say this the the 123s are nice and warm and they just get out of your face and play the music so nicely. Now, I have a Pioneer vsx 1017 receiver. I'm sure a better amp will make them both sound better or different. MY receiver for my budget and tastes is just fine , lots of very clean power. So, given that without ever hearing Rockets or the higher end Axioms, if the sound of lower end of each line is a signature sound of each respective line, IMO I would definately go with the AV123's. Their prices are out of control low right now, as they are coming out with newer products.. You can steal some very great sound, but hurry. The people at 123 are really into their craft, the support and forum buddies are tops. The axiom outdoor is a really good musical speaker, I'm not sorry I bought them. But, if 123 made an outdoor model Iwould run to it. Again the brightness thing.
Maybe another amp?. I know this is not really what you wanted to know, but what the heck, for whatever it's worth.

 

[cka69335]

They are both very capable speakers manufacturers. Which ones in particular are you comparing?

The Rocket RS850 and the M80v2's

 

[calnbs]

You better decide VERY SOON cuz the sale at AV123.com is ending very, very soon.

 

[nhpm510]

850 sounds awsome and can play very loudly. Best HT tspeaker I 've heard.
U won't be disappointed. Get them b4 the sale is over.

Have not heard the Axioms.

 

[agarwalro]

In addition to the Rockets being on sale, therefore about $250 cheaper (need to buy 3 speakers to get discount pricing, if not, they are $700 more) than the Axioms, they are 8ohm speakers. So they will be driven by any receiver/ amp. The M80's are 4ohm speakers, so get them only if you are planning to get a higher end receiver or a dedicated amp.

PS. Just noticed that the Rockets are sold out until Dec 30th, but you can still order them.

 

[Soundman]

Value-wise the 850's are a better choice. The normal price for the 850's is $2,000/pair, but with the sale, they are $1000/pair. I would consider them a step up from Axiom's M80's. But perceived sound is such a personal thing. Both speakers sound very different so only you can decide what kind of sound you prefer.

 

[Kpt_Krunch]

Value-wise the 850's are a better choice. The normal price for the 850's is $2,000/pair, but with the sale, they are $1000/pair. I would consider them a step up from Axiom's M80's. But perceived sound is such a personal thing. Both speakers sound very different so only you can decide what kind of sound you prefer.

I gotta step in here. You're very very wrong here. The Rockets are not a better value.

Now, I'm not saying one is 'better' than the other - but rather the OP's orginal question of the speakers being 'comparable'.

These speakers are definitely NOT comparable. One is warm and fuzzy (like lottakash says) and one is very detailed and some would say 'bright' or 'forward'.

So to say that either one is a better value is totally false. They are different speakers, period. If you like detail and forward (bright) speakers, the Rockets are horrible and you'll hate them (hence the perceived 'value'). However, if you prefer a laid back, 'warm' sound (dare I say the Bose word.... better not...oops too late) then the Rockets would definitely be better for you.

Now, before anyone jumps all over me - everyone always describes these speakers 'good' points and from a 'good' point of view. Well, if you can't hear them for yourself until you buy them, if you don't like the sound, how I described them is what you'll hear.

I guess what really bothers me is the OP thinks these speakers are 'comparable' - someone has given you very bad info, or (no offense meant) you're not very good at remembering what people have said the sound characteristics of these speakers are.

Personally, I would dislike both. I like neutral. I don't want to be able to locallze the speaker, or have my ears bleed either. Good luck with your search!

 

[Grantc79]

I gotta step in here. You're very very wrong here. The Rockets are not a better value.

Now, I'm not saying one is 'better' than the other - but rather the OP's orginal question of the speakers being 'comparable'.

These speakers are definitely NOT comparable. One is warm and fuzzy (like lottakash says) and one is very detailed and some would say 'bright' or 'forward'.

Warm and fuzzy vs. bright and forward?

I wouldn't call Rockets fuzzy. Warm sure, but not fuzzy. I would call Axiom's bright and forward though and some people like that or need that because of their hearing.

So to say that either one is a better value is totally false. They are different speakers, period. If you like detail and forward (bright) speakers, the Rockets are horrible and you'll hate them (hence the perceived 'value'). However, if you prefer a laid back, 'warm' sound (dare I say the Bose word.... better not...oops too late) then the Rockets would definitely be better for you.

Just because you have a warm sound doesn't mean you don't have detail. Paradigm Sigs for example have a very warm sound, but they are also very detailed.

Also I prefer a warm sound but I don't "hate" bright sounding speakers either. I also don't get why you are comparing Rockets to Bose.

I mean, there are Klipsch questions from people but I don't say "do you like that bright sound such as banging a spatula on a tin pan, if so then you will like Klipsch."

Now, before anyone jumps all over me - everyone always describes these speakers 'good' points and from a 'good' point of view. Well, if you can't hear them for yourself until you buy them, if you don't like the sound, how I described them is what you'll hear.

Not necessarily, it is all very subjective. In general I'd agree with what you are saying but some people's hearing might lead them to believe that Rockets are very detailed and neutral sounding.

I guess what really bothers me is the OP thinks these speakers are 'comparable' - someone has given you very bad info, or (no offense meant) you're not very good at remembering what people have said the sound characteristics of these speakers are.

They are comparable.

Both are from an internet company.
Both are similarly priced.
Both have a good reputation amongst the community.
Both come in some quality finishes.
Both use quality components.
Both will do a good job with HT and music though they sound different.

I dunno what your problem is dude, did you just have a bad day or something or just feel like trolling starting an argument?

 

[billy p]

I gotta step in here. You're very very wrong here. The Rockets are not a better value.

Now, I'm not saying one is 'better' than the other - but rather the OP's orginal question of the speakers being 'comparable'.

These speakers are definitely NOT comparable. One is warm and fuzzy (like lottakash says) and one is very detailed and some would say 'bright' or 'forward'.

So to say that either one is a better value is totally false. They are different speakers, period. If you like detail and forward (bright) speakers, the Rockets are horrible and you'll hate them (hence the perceived 'value'). However, if you prefer a laid back, 'warm' sound (dare I say the Bose word.... better not...oops too late) then the Rockets would definitely be better for you.

Now, before anyone jumps all over me - everyone always describes these speakers 'good' points and from a 'good' point of view. Well, if you can't hear them for yourself until you buy them, if you don't like the sound, how I described them is what you'll hear.

I guess what really bothers me is the OP thinks these speakers are 'comparable' - someone has given you very bad info, or (no offense meant) you're not very good at remembering what people have said the sound characteristics of these speakers are.

Personally, I would dislike both. I like neutral. I don't want to be able to locallze the speaker, or have my ears bleed either. Good luck with your search!

Kind of like your Energy Rc's. I totally agree with your above statement! Speakers are so SUBJECTIVE and must be listened to!! IMO the only thing that Axiom & AV123 have in common is they are ID and both make great products.

 

[Kpt_Krunch]

They are comparable.

Both are from an internet company.
Both are similarly priced.
Both have a good reputation amongst the community.
Both come in some quality finishes.
Both use quality components.
Both will do a good job with HT and music though they sound different.

I dunno what your problem is dude, did you just have a bad day or something or just feel like trolling starting an argument?

Nope - not a bad day at all. But they DO sound different, very different. So who cares about the rest! The #1 thing about a speaker you should have at the top of your list is how it sounds. If you don't like the sound, you don't buy, no matter how they look or how much (or cheap) they are. So they are not alike and the OP should take that under very serious consideration.

I just put a different spin on the take of them. I'm sure that no matter what the OP winds up with - he'll be very happy. Just want to make sure that before he orders he knows what sound he'll be getting, that's all.

Cheers!

 

[Soundman]

I gotta step in here. You're very very wrong here. The Rockets are not a better value.

Now, I'm not saying one is 'better' than the other - but rather the OP's orginal question of the speakers being 'comparable'.

These speakers are definitely NOT comparable. One is warm and fuzzy (like lottakash says) and one is very detailed and some would say 'bright' or 'forward'.

So to say that either one is a better value is totally false. They are different speakers, period. If you like detail and forward (bright) speakers, the Rockets are horrible and you'll hate them (hence the perceived 'value'). However, if you prefer a laid back, 'warm' sound (dare I say the Bose word.... better not...oops too late) then the Rockets would definitely be better for you.

Now, before anyone jumps all over me - everyone always describes these speakers 'good' points and from a 'good' point of view. Well, if you can't hear them for yourself until you buy them, if you don't like the sound, how I described them is what you'll hear.

I guess what really bothers me is the OP thinks these speakers are 'comparable' - someone has given you very bad info, or (no offense meant) you're not very good at remembering what people have said the sound characteristics of these speakers are.

Personally, I would dislike both. I like neutral. I don't want to be able to locallze the speaker, or have my ears bleed either. Good luck with your search!

Uhh... Dude. Easy boy. (hey, I gotta defend myself, right. ) First of all, I said value-wise b/c of the great sale that's going on with the Rocket's, that I thought they were a better deal. I also followed that statement by saying that both of these speakers sound very different and that how a speaker sounds to you is so subjective. So, that was just my opinion. Just take it for what it's worth. You can't say that someones opinion is wrong when we are talking about speakers which we all know is so subjective. Personally, it sounds like you're an axiom fanboy, comparing Rocket's to Bose. Come on, show a little respect. When I said I thought the Rocket's were a better value, I just meant that b/c of the great sale. I mean, try building a speaker with the same built quality as the rockets for that price. you'll have a hard time doing it. AV123 is actually taking a loss on the rockets right now to make room in their warehouse for their new product lines. And before you ask me, yes, I have demo'ed the axioms in my home, so I do know what they sound like. I am in no way disrespecting the axioms. They just didn't work for me. I actually really enjoyed listening to them. They are very nice speakers.