Rives CD and subwoofer

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NapaDRB

Junior Audioholic
Hey gang, new member here with a few questions but first want to thank this site, I have been reading here for a few months and have learned tons.

So I wanted to check my freq. resp. in the bass range so following what I have read here I order up my Rives test CD, borrow the Rat Shack meter and dig out a tripod. I make a couple of runs (definitely some funky stuff going on) and have a few questions.

I have the digital meter instead of analog, so are the Rives adjusted curves still correct?

Mike on the meter pointing forward or straight up? I have read recommendations both ways.

Because the Rives is a CD my rcvr goes to Dolby Pro Logic which seems OK but once I move up out of the Bass range it seems like 95% of the sound is coming from only my center channel. It doesn't seem like this would accurately depict what my system is doing. Do I need to "force" the rcvr into some other mode?

Thanks for the help.
 
ski2xblack

ski2xblack

Audioholic Samurai
The Rives disc's tones are calibrated to the analog meter, per their literature. I'm unsure if the digital will work as well, but if you have it give it a try. The analog meter is nice when adjusting sub output, for example, since you don't have to keep track of numbers but rather simply adjust the sub gain until the needle hits the target. As far as the direction to point the meter, I clamped mine into the tripod with the mic facing the direction of the speakers for each measurement. The mic is supposedly omnidirectional, so aiming it up should still work.

My experience with the rives disc proved to be interesting, but achieving truly flat resopnse in my room is futile. Unfortunately, my listening room is small and prone to all sorts of room nodes. I found that flat response in one spot would yeild quite different response, even at proximal locations within the area of the room in which I was trying to get the smoothest response. We're talkin huge differences between locations only a foot apart. I discovered that my primary listening area, and the entire room for that matter, is a extensive mosaic of nodes and nulls that can't be tamed without further measures (such as room treatments or multiple subs). The degree and severity of the nodes in my room was the biggest eye opener when using the Rives disc. Perhaps that is what you are referring to when you mention 'funky stuff' in your post. Anyway, despite the nodes and dips, I have acheived a fairly flat response througout the majority of the room. Just don't get too obsessive with the calibration and trust your ears.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
Because the Rives is a CD my rcvr goes to Dolby Pro Logic which seems OK but once I move up out of the Bass range it seems like 95% of the sound is coming from only my center channel. It doesn't seem like this would accurately depict what my system is doing. Do I need to "force" the rcvr into some other mode?

Thanks for the help.
Yes, it is in the center because the way the prologic matrix works. Any signal in each channel that is the same amplitude, frequency and phase is considered mono and center channel.
If you want left and right, you need to try going into stereo mode or just use analog out from the CD/DVD player and stereo mode. Then, unplug one speaker so it doesn't interfere.

I think for your purposes, that digital will work, even if it is off a dB in the end. Unless you are trying to do a precision EQ process, but then you would need more stuff:D
 
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NapaDRB

Junior Audioholic
OK guys thanks for the info. I will make a couple of runs at this and then probably have more questions once I get the results.
 

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