Review of Samsung LN-T4665F???

[Gasman]

Has anyone seen a direct comparison between last year model, and this year model Samsung's.
Model #'s LN-T4665F and the 4661f?

The only difference I see is the claimed dynamic contrast.

They are both HDMI 1.3 version, same amount of inputs, both are 46" LCD
both 1080p, etc....
One has speakers on sides, the other on bottom.
Anyone see the exact power figures of both?

So I returned one of the LG 42" 1080p TVs, had volume issues with one of them.
And wanted to go a little bigger 46" over 42", the other 42" I am keeping in the garage and it has computer hooked up, hence 1080p is more needed for that TV.
But the new one, will only be for BD & HD DVD & TV (no console, no PC).
So 1080p is not a must for this one, but to stay with times, is preferred.
I'm considering the 4665, but was wondering on direct comparison, for the difference of ~200.00 in price to the 4661.

As well, anyone that works at BB or CC, please chime in, if you know the return rate of either of these 2 TVs.

These 2 are the ones I am talking about;
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-pFBnmB9lN2Z/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?I=305LNT4665
http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?g=146350&i=305LNT4661&tp=161

Has anyone seen direct comparison over at AVS? or somewhere with a decent review on comparison?

 

[Crackerballer]

I check out the reviews on CNET alot, but they are harsh on TVs I feel. I am currently keeping my eye on this:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000WV8EK0/ref=s9_asin_title_1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=1D52GKMB97KGJAAAD6S0&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=320448801&pf_rd_i=507846

The 120hz refresh is sick. I saw Pirates 2 on it in CC, and it looked like I could reach in and touch keira knightly and she would blush.

 

[Gasman]

Already checked cnet for the reviews on the 2 TVs, I posted.
No luck, for the info I'm looking for (rather than what I briefly stated).

That particular TV is a tad over budget. (unless it would offer A LOT better picture)

Side note;

"120hz refresh is sick. I saw Pirates 2 on it in CC, and it looked like I could reach in and touch keira knightly and she would blush"

You do know, that has nothing to do with the depth of the image, correct.
That would be closer to the dynamic/static contrast, correct color setup as well correct grayscale and sharpening.
The 120mhz, works on the divisable 24 fps, and has only to do with correct film speed (to reduce film judder) and will only be noticed on panning shots.
Granted, the fellows that have bought into the 120mhz, have stated, they have seen no real benefit.
A better benefit would to make sure the TV has HDMI version 1.3

I have HD players that will run at 24fps, but the minimal benefit, I'm not worried about (for the extra 400 ~ 800, per TV).

In other words, 120mhz, is not one of my prerequisites. But v1.3 is.

Plasma will be ok, but is not preferred. Due to looking to go with the most EE items I possibly can.
Example, just bought a side/side fridge that is EE, EE microwave, and a 3 bathroom tankless water heater that is considered so EE that the Fed. Gov. gives back a 300 tax refund for buying it.

So that is why I had asked specifics in first post, if anyone knows the exact power draw concering each of those 2 LCD TVs.

Though, thanks for the thought.

 

[Gasman]

Ok, nevermind.
To keep a more educated opinion, I decided to go with plasma
(with lower resolution at 720p than my LCD (1080p), and no v1.3, but excellent pic and quality, although it is EE ).

Ended up picking up this one for 1297.00 which included an extended 3 year warranty.
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-3D0uBawUy6i/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?I=305HPT5064
(buying so many TVs at the same place, has its advantages.....)

Got it home, and yes there are some clear positives compared to my LG LCD, but also some clear negatives.
Most all of you know, heat, contrast, resolution, etc...)

One thing, out of the box the LG is much better coloring than the Samsung.
I can clearly see why these NEED calibration.
So I guess I will calibrate tomorrow.

But yeah, the Samsung has a huge green push. For the heck of it, I put in Transformers HD DVD and the green push is VERY EASY to see. Out of the box, the LCD blows it away for colors.
Contrast, well LOL, is an entire different story.
As we all know that even a 20,000:1 LCD 'Dynamic' contrast, does not compare to a even a cheap plasma at 6000:1 static contrast.
Anyhow, after I calibrate the plasma I will post back on the exact pros and cons.

I will say, it is nice to have a plasma, a LCD, and a DLP in the house.

Sadly, next year I will have to update the DLP projector.
(never ending.................................

 

[Crackerballer]

So if you had to pick between an LCD, Plasma, or DLP projection TV around the 50" range, for HT (Blue Ray) and gaming, which would you choose? I was looking into the 50 or 56 Samsung DLP with the LED light engine.

 

[thematrixz]

So if you had to pick between an LCD, Plasma, or DLP projection TV around the 50" range, for HT (Blue Ray) and gaming, which would you choose? I was looking into the 50 or 56 Samsung DLP with the LED light engine.

I personally prefer plasma over other technologies, mainly due to brightness and contrast advantages. I have the Samsung 4665F and another Samsung plasma 720p, I like the plasma 720p picture more.

For gaming, LCD is good (no burn in issue that plasma has)

Rear projection sets might be cheaper, but you'll give up the wide viewing angle, if your room is narrow, it might work well. But really, the prices have come down so much for plasma and LCD, I don't think rptv is going to survive for too long now.