Receiver with on/off timer

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RickC3C4

Audioholic Intern
I'm trying to find a receiver that has a built-in on/off timer. I currently have an Onkyo TX-SR602 and I would need something with at least that level of features and connectivity plus HDMI connections. Basically I need to be able to turn the sound off and back on in conjunction with the on/off timer on my television.
 
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MDS

Audioholic Spartan
Doesn't the 602 have a sleep timer? Most of the Onkyos do.

Still you won't be able to coordinate it with the sleep function of the TV. How is the receiver going to know that the TV has turned off or on? Older Onkyo receivers (TX-SVxxx) allowed you to connect the TV to video1 and when the TV turned on the receiver would turn on and when the tv turned off the receiver would turn off, but that feature is long gone.

Some TVs will automatically turn off if they don't receive a signal for a set period of time or have the 'sleep' function that you can set to a period of time, but none of them will ever be able to do the opposite and turn on the receiver when the TV turns on.

The only solution would be to get a power conditioner that has a sleep type function and connect everything to it. You may be able to get the 'turn everything off' functionality with a universal remote with a macro programmed to set the sleep timer on the receiver and tv at the same time.
 
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RickC3C4

Audioholic Intern
The sleep timer function isn't exactly what I'm looking for. I need to be able to set an off time at night and an on time in the morning. It doesn't have to be identically synchronized with the TV's on/off timer, close would be good enough. I used to run the audio out of the satellite receiver and into the TV and then out of the TV and into the AV receiver. This did exactly what I wanted, by using only the TV on-off timer I could turn the audio and video on-off but my new system isn't set up that way. I thought for sure there would be an AV receiver out there with a simple on-off timer built in like every TV has.
 
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RickC3C4

Audioholic Intern
Thanks for the comic relief but an alarm clock wouldn't help solve this problem. I didn't want to have to explain but perhaps it will help. I'm disabled, a quadriplegic completely paralyzed from the neck down (like Christopher Reeve). Because of this I'm unable to turn the TV off or on etc. so at night after my attendant has left I need the TV to go off at a designated time and since I wake up earlier than my attendant arrives in the morning I need the TV to come on in the morning at a designated. I was able to do this with my old set up as I explained above but I was lucky enough to score a new 50 inch plasma for Christmas and didn't want to have to rig it like I had it before.
 
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MDS

Audioholic Spartan
I think the solution to your problem will have to be some kind of power center or power strip to which you connect all of your components and then a timer connected to the power cable of the power strip.

I'm thinking something like the timers people use to turn on their hoses to water the grass when they don't have a sprinkler system. Something that will turn on at a set time and run for a set period of time. If you had something like that it could be set to turn on at 7am and run for 12 hours and then shut-off the power strip.
 
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RickC3C4

Audioholic Intern
Will turning the power on or off that way affect any of the program settings in the receiver or TV? Basically will it reset the factory settings every time?
 
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MDS

Audioholic Spartan
The receiver will definitely retain its settings and I'm pretty sure that the TV will too. I've had the power go out in the middle of watching tv and it hasn't lost its settings yet.

There are some settings that are reset to the default or off when the receiver is turned off/standby but that is by design and won't change whether you press the power button or yank the power out from underneath it.

P.S. I'm curious what you use to type messages. You write with perfect grammar and spelling which is a lot better than some of us that do have the use of our hands.
 
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RickC3C4

Audioholic Intern
Well I've posted this question to several people & groups and pretty much came up with the exact same answer from everyone. It's not a bad answer and certainly accomplishes exactly what I want to do I just still find it hard to believe that nobody has put a simple clock and on/off timer into a AV receiver. Just about every TV comes with this feature, heck my new TV has not only a sleep timer but FIVE programmable on-off timers, but if you're running a TV through an AV system that feature becomes mute, or more accurately not mute since you can turn the TV off on a timer but the sound will continue to play because the receiver is still on. Frustrating.

To answer your last question, I use Dragon NaturallySpeaking Preferred voice recognition software. For someone in my situation this is the best invention in history. Typing text for e-mails or post such as this is quick and easy but the software also allows me to operate my computer entirely by voice, pretty much anything you can do with your hand on the computer I can do by voice. It's still a little faster doing it by hand but I'm still happy to have it.
 
GlocksRock

GlocksRock

Audioholic Spartan
I can understand the use of a sleep timer on a tv/receiver to shut it off, but many people would have no practical use for an on timer, so why include it... maybe I'm wrong, but I've never even thought about having an on timer, and wouldn't use one even if it were there. But I can see how in your case it would be a nice feature.
 
Seth=L

Seth=L

Audioholic Overlord
Some universal remotes like my Sony (don't have the model off hand) have a timer on them. They can be set to turn devices on and carry out other functions. Using a macro function in parallel with the timer it will do what you need. All that needs to be done is setting the correct time on the remote, setting a set of functions to carry out and that is all she wrote. Of course it will have to set it accordingly to the manual and it may take some time to do.

Look to spend at least $100 for such a universal remote.

The Onkyo 604 is a decent receiver that has HDMI 1.1, and has the ability to process audio from the HDMI source provided the source is outputting audio. That receiver is around $300-$350 from what I have seen. If you get the remote and the receiver you would be spending less than $500 most likely.
 
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RickC3C4

Audioholic Intern
You're probably right, most people don't have a need for a programmable on/off timer, heck most people have no need for and probably never use the sleep timer. But looking at it that way most people don't need and will probably never use five digital audio inputs, three component video inputs, eight different Dolby & DTS configurations, seven channels of amplification, zone two capability, 40 AM/FM presets etc., etc., etc. Sure, my situation is fairly unique but if the manufacturer can put in all those "will probably never use" features why can't they put a simple on/off timer in there like every TV comes with.
 
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RickC3C4

Audioholic Intern
Seth,
I would be very interested in this remote, I've been looking into some high-end remotes and nobody has been able to give me a lead on one that will do this, at least not under about $800 for the remote alone. If you would please send me the information on your remote, this may solve all my problems :)
 
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