Receiver Dilemma!!

[rlantigua]

Receiver Dilemma!!

Wich one of them do you consider gives you more for your money?

I own Yamaha HTR-5440 is time for an upgrade.!!

 

[Leprkon]

The RX-V2500 gives you more overall for your money, but...

the Denon and HK do certain things better than the Yamaha does. The Yamaha will excel if you do mostly movies, and it does a creditable enough job that it's worth saving a couple hundred by going with one.

If you do need those other things (multi-room control is a Denon strong suit, while HK can handle many speakers that scare a Yammy), you won't be saving yourself a dime.

If you are running Yammy now, you will probably be extremely happy with the 2500. I've got one and it completely outclassed the mid-end Sony it replaced.

 

[Francious70]

I don't know, but if you wanna give me your old receiver, I'd be happy to take it.

Paul

 

[Buckeyefan 1]

I would have bought the HK 7300 if it weren't twice the price as the Denon ($1399 vs $735). I had a Yammy, and went to Denon for a change. I was not disappointed. Lots of power and tons of flexibility. You won't notice a difference in sound quality in the Yammy or Denon. Have you considered Marantz? Ubid.com has a nice deal going on their high end 8400 unit right now that compares to my Denon 3805 for a lot less.

 

[cam]

The yammy does do alot for the money, but one thing that would deter me from getting the 2500 though, is that I have read that when run in 7 channel stereo at louder volumes, the front faceplate lights begin to dim with the bass notes. This might be minor, but I thought I would mention it. I have a lesser Denon 1804 and I have run it at full power with 6 channel stereo for long periods of time and never did the lights dim. I have seen bench test done with 5 channels driven simutaneously and the 2500 was at about 45 watts x 5, which in the real world is loads of power. While the denon 3805 was able to produce about 100 watts x 5, 5-channels driven, and with no faceplate lights dimming at full power. My vote goes for the 3805, and if I didn't have a wife right now, I'd being getting one.

 

[mazersteven]

Look at page 4 of 7. If I'm correct the others don't have this feature. And wasn't the Denon voted best in it's class?
http://www.usa.denon.com/catalog/pdfs/AutoSetup Mic 3805.pdf

 

[Leprkon]

Look at page 4 of 7. If I'm correct the others don't have this feature. And wasn't the Denon voted best in it's class?
http://www.usa.denon.com/catalog/pdfs/AutoSetup Mic 3805.pdf

so you now have to buy the 3805, a seperate mic, a seperate SPL meter and a seperate voltmeter ? sounds like a tweaker's dream but an accountant's nightmare....

 

[rlantigua]

Thanks for the input guys. I'm kind leaning to the Yamaha V2500
is just so hard to decide. they all have cool features.

This web site has for 637
FotoConnection

 

[mazersteven]

Originally Posted by mazersteven
Look at page 4 of 7. If I'm correct the others don't have this feature. And wasn't the Denon voted best in it's class?
http://www.usa.denon.com/catalog/pd...0Mic 3805.pdf



so you now have to buy the 3805, a seperate mic, a seperate SPL meter and a seperate voltmeter ? sounds like a tweaker's dream but an accountant's nightmare....


I like the Yamaha receiver myself. I'm just saying that the Denon for the same money has some great features some of the others don't have.

 

[Leprkon]

I like the Yamaha receiver myself. I'm just saying that the Denon for the same money has some great features some of the others don't have.

I completely agree. If you need the HK or Denon special features, the Yammie is not the way to go.

 

[algernon]

Originally Posted by mazersteven
Look at page 4 of 7. If I'm correct the others don't have this feature. And wasn't the Denon voted best in it's class?
http://www.usa.denon.com/catalog/pd...0Mic 3805.pdf



so you now have to buy the 3805, a seperate mic, a seperate SPL meter and a seperate voltmeter ? sounds like a tweaker's dream but an accountant's nightmare....


I like the Yamaha receiver myself. I'm just saying that the Denon for the same money has some great features some of the others don't have.

I heard somewhere, probably on this site, that any ole mic will work on the denon.

That said, I voted for the yamaha 2500, mainly due to 10 years of pro logic bliss with no complaints. And that Yamaha receiver still won't get to retire, it will just move to a secondary room.

I am also in the market for a new receiver, and a recurrent theme keeps popping up all over the place here: In the $800-1000 range from the oft mentioned brands, there really are no losers.

I have strongly considered the denon 3805, and online prices are much closer to the 2500 than retail (lack of warranty support doesn't scare me, especially for a couple of hundred dollars. that $ 200 is my own personal protection plan.)
But then again I might wait for another year or so for a few more features to trickle down.
My take on the current features available on high end models I 'd like to see (or not see) in the $1000 MSRP models:

XM: Useless in a receiver. Pay for a subscription on the immobile receiver, then another for the car unit? no. Sister has sirius unit that goes from the house to the car and back into the house. Even has a FM modulator so the boom box in the garage can play the same music going into the receiver in the house.

RS-232c: don't really know what it can do, but anything that can hook into the computer is cool. Most already have this feature.

IEEE-1394: Don't really know what this does for audio, but again, anything that can hook into the computer is cool.

HDMI / DVI switching: I guess once I buy that flat screen, I'll want this, but does it really offer much improvement over component?

Propriatary links: useless, IMHO. Would never affect a buying decision.

Ethernet: Apparently the new Denon has it. I wired my new house (still under construction) with multiple ethernet cables in every room. Glad I did. Every day more and more devices are ethernet enabled. RCA has a DLP with Windows CE and a ethernet connection built in. Biggest palm pilot on the planet. Not to mention the many media servers already available. I would want this feature more than anything else. I'd pay $1500 today for a A/V receiver with built in media streaming. It will probably be available and $1000 a year from now.

So - I'll keep reading, and when the house is done I guess I'll have a decision to make.

Whew...Are you tired? I am .

 

[PENG]

HDMI / DVI switching: I guess once I buy that flat screen, I'll want this, but does it really offer much improvement over component?

Propriatary links: useless, IMHO. Would never affect a buying decision.

I prefer to connect video outputs directly to my TV. As for proprietary links, the Denon 3910 was my first choice anyway so the dlink works well for me. The only problem is, SACD does not work on it yet so I have to settle for the 2 channel tracks on the SACD disc for now.

I had used the 3805 with my power amps for a while and found only small subjective improvements so I am now using the 3805 on its own. I was totally surprised with the quality of the 3805's own amps. To me, they are neutral sounding, so if you like your music slightly bright or warm(whatever that means), look elsewhere.

 

[rlantigua]

algernon you made great points on your post.... must of the stuff you mention I won't need.

The multi room feature of the denon is what interet me the most. But I'm kind loyal with the yamaha... I have mine for over 6 years now and I have no complains.

 

[Reorx]

!!! FotoConnection - STAY AWAY !!!
Their prices are good, but overall it's not worth it.

I've had a bunch of friends use them, and read a bunch of reviews. They are horrible.

Unless of course, you enjoy being:
Billed wrong, shipped the wrong product, being hung up on by their customer service, not getting replies to emails to customer service, taking 3-4 weeks to get your product instead of the 3-5 days they told you, items being "out of stock" / "on back order", yet they didn't bother to tell you, billed you right away, and told you it'd ship the next day, etc, etc.


RS-232c - is used for controlling the unit remotely using a 2ndary device. ie: The video projectors we use at the university I work at use AMX control systems to control the video projector using the rs-232 port. We can program it to do many things: turn it on/off, switch inputs, make image adjustments, etc. using a touch screen, buttons on the wall(old), over an ethernet connection (netlinx).

RS232 on a receiver I suspect it could be used to control the receiver using one of the nice wireless touch screens. 12" & 15" Modero Touch Panels at the bottom of the link.
http://www.amx.com/new-products-public.asp.
Press theater, the lights dim, the receiver switches to theater mode, screen comes down, video projector starts up. Touch screen gives you an option to pick a movie to watch in your 100 disk DVD changer.

Reorx

 

[rlantigua]

Thanks fo the tip....

Where is a good place to buy receivers on line?

!!! FotoConnection - STAY AWAY !!!
Their prices are good, but overall it's not worth it.

I've had a bunch of friends use them, and read a bunch of reviews. They are horrible.

Unless of course, you enjoy being:
Billed wrong, shipped the wrong product, being hung up on by their customer service, not getting replies to emails to customer service, taking 3-4 weeks to get your product instead of the 3-5 days they told you, items being "out of stock" / "on back order", yet they didn't bother to tell you, billed you right away, and told you it'd ship the next day, etc, etc.


RS-232c - is used for controlling the unit remotely using a 2ndary device. ie: The video projectors we use at the university I work at use AMX control systems to control the video projector using the rs-232 port. We can program it to do many things: turn it on/off, switch inputs, make image adjustments, etc. using a touch screen, buttons on the wall(old), over an ethernet connection (netlinx).

RS232 on a receiver I suspect it could be used to control the receiver using one of the nice wireless touch screens. 12" & 15" Modero Touch Panels at the bottom of the link.
http://www.amx.com/new-products-public.asp.
Press theater, the lights dim, the receiver switches to theater mode, screen comes down, video projector starts up. Touch screen gives you an option to pick a movie to watch in your 100 disk DVD changer.

Reorx

 

[shokhead]

www.Dakmart.com

 

[Buckeyefan 1]

Dakmart is good, also check out www.ubid.com for very good pricing. www.jr.com has good deals when on sale.

 

[rlantigua]

Thanks for the re-plays... I will go with RX-V2500