Receiver Cooling - search words: PC fan 12v adapter

jagxtype

jagxtype

Audioholic
Anybody know where i can get a fan(s) to keep the AVR-745 cool? i would prefer just to plug them into the 120V switched outlet on the back. Is there anyway else i can wire up a fan without having to use a converter all that expensive stuff? I dont want a lot of noise, but a little is alright considering i have an open room that has a computer running all the time and other stuff like that. Any suggestions please?
 
Sheep

Sheep

Audioholic Warlord
Don't.

It has heat sinks, just keep the openings clear.

SheepStar
 
mike c

mike c

Audioholic Warlord
an AC to DC 12v adapter ... taken from broken wireless phones, etc. (or buy a new one) + PC fan + plugged into the switched outlet at the back = 10 bucks worth of super silent triggered cooling.
 
jagxtype

jagxtype

Audioholic
well i only have about 1/2" to work with on the sides. I am not getting rid of my HT case either so thats out of the question. I have about 8" above and about 8 inches behing the receiver itself (hole cut in cabinet in back). I am thinking it will get too hot. The avr 635 that ran a short course used to get really hot in a short time. i am sure the avr 745 will get a tad bit hotter. Just dont want to risk component failure for a $20 fan.
 
Sheep

Sheep

Audioholic Warlord
well i only have about 1/2" to work with on the sides. I am not getting rid of my HT case either so thats out of the question. I have about 8" above and about 8 inches behing the receiver itself (hole cut in cabinet in back). I am thinking it will get too hot. The avr 635 that ran a short course used to get really hot in a short time. i am sure the avr 745 will get a tad bit hotter. Just dont want to risk component failure for a $20 fan.
Heat rises. 8 inches is more then enough vertical room.

SheepStar
 
mike c

mike c

Audioholic Warlord
here:



pc fan : less than 2 bucks
12v adapter : less than 6 bucks OR free
electrical tape : priceless

positioned like so:



I find that because the fan is continuously running, even the top vents are very cool (even those not fanned) I guess it's because heat conducts ... and since the location under the fan is always cool, the heat over the top of the receiver dissipates completely.
 
jagxtype

jagxtype

Audioholic
Do you think that if i put one on the back vent that was a little more CFM that it will work good? I am just worried that which way the fan in there outputs so i can creat synergy and not have them working against each other for negative effect. I also think that the back would be better cosmetically.
 
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mike c

mike c

Audioholic Warlord
personally, i wouldnt mess with the stock ventilation.

plus the fact, like sheeps says, heat rises. help the heat get out of the receiver the fastest. UP.

oh, and your pic attachment is too wide.
 
jagxtype

jagxtype

Audioholic
i will see what it does when i get it. i might have to buy a new HT stand after all. this one works good for cheapy stuff, but not the bigger stuff. I suppose open air is the way to go!
 
J

Jacksmyname

Audioholic
I have a credenza style cabinet for my AV stuff. I installed 3 fans in the back (required drilling 3" holes; very easy). One fan is behind and just above a Toshiba XA2 HD-DVD player. The next one is behind and just above the receiver (Yam RX-V3800). The third one is behind and just above a VHS deck :)D). These are run off a transformer plugged into the back of my receiver, so they all power on when the receiver is powered on. The transformer has a slide switch which allows adjusting the voltage to the fans, which in turn allows for setting fan speed.
While I have enough clearance for my components, and there are three 2" wide vertical slots in the back for cables, heat can still build up a bit inside the cabinet. So I felt it was worthwhile to install the fans. My feeling is that keeping it cooler can be beneficial to the equipment over the long term.
 
N

Nimrod

Audioholic
I'm an expert on this stuff (just went thru it)

Buyextras.com

$25 and your done.

Huge difference in how cool my system is now
 
jagxtype

jagxtype

Audioholic
0 difference in performance.

SheepStar
It effects performance if your equipment is destroyed by heat related damages:D Remember to engage your brain before you put your mouth in gear:p
 

kzook19

Audiophyte
AV Fan

Take a look at BuyExtras.com.

Product: BXT Amplifier/Receiver Cooler + Fan Speed Controller + AC Power Supply

I'm considering this fan for my new Onkyo TX-SR605. I only have about an inch of vertical clearance in my existing TV stand, so I'm not sure if it will do me any good. It may help you, though.

Good luck.
 
Halon451

Halon451

Audioholic Samurai
You guys are getting too crazy with this. I have to lean towards agreement with Sheep on this one; for most common configurations/placements of consumer electronics (AVR's, etc.) there should be no need to further establish cooling mechanisms, unless there the thing is tightly packed into a non-ventilated cabinet, or a closet, or elsewhere where there is restricted airflow - this is where you run the risk of something getting too hot to the point where damage will occur. You would be surprised at just how robust most electronics are with respect to heat - consider the stereo in your car and the extreme temperatures it endures, yet it still keeps rocking. Even many digital circuits can withstand temperatures up to 120 degrees before any issue begins to develop, and even then it is only an upper threshold with conservative margins established.

Building special cabinets with high-powered components that are likely to generate a large amount of heat would require extra cooling fan(s). This is the case in many a commercial A/V build I've done, or the larger more complex equipment racks I've built and worked with in TV stations.

Bottom line - heat rises. As long as there is nothing obstructing the vents and there is adequate space to allow air to move up and out, and in from the bottom as it will naturally do, you should have no need for a fan. ;)
 
mike c

mike c

Audioholic Warlord
I leave the receiver on for the whole day (for my PC) ... and I find that I sleep easier with the fans running because when I touch the top of the receiver, it's cool! :)
 
Haoleb

Haoleb

Audioholic Field Marshall
0 difference in performance.

SheepStar

Thank you for that. Very helpful.

Now, Heat is an enemy of electronics. And even moreso is the constant heating and cooling cycles of components but that is a whole different thread so we wont go there. Radioshack sells 120v boxer fans that you could plug directly into the switched outlet like you suggest. Looking at your reciever it appears to have a tunnel type heatsink like the rest of the HK's I have worked on and natural convection doesnt really work with that design which is why they put the fan in the end to blow air through the fins. Adding another fan will probably help keep it a bit cooler but the main thing to keep in mind is that you need to keep the back area of the reciever open so the hot air can blow out instead of just recirculate into the cabinet or whatever its housed in.
 
F

fmw

Audioholic Ninja
Add me to the Sheep camp. Your setup doesn't require a fan, even with a very warm running component. You will be fine. More than fine, actually.
 
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100r1

Junior Audioholic
They have some nice products. Please purchase their products! The company I work for is a supplier for some of their components.

Been asking the salesman in charge their account to get some free samples, Or even a discount!

What I did was take a old RCA direct TV receiver and gut out the parts, put some PC cooling fans inside used closed cell foam with PSA on top and bottom of fans to act as a seal for better flow and to act as a sound absorber. Had to drill additional holes in the top and bottom where the fans are located. Wired all together with a female panel mount power connector. Using a Rat shack power supply.

Whole deal sits on top of my AVR and sucks air up from the existing vents. Looks like a part of the Home theater system.
 
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