i think my question was very vague so I'll try again to explain it better. im get a satellite dish in a few days with the dvr. dish network tells me the dvr won't record one show while watching another one but if i have two TV's hooked up to it then it will. what im trying to get at is why can't my vcr be the second tuner or is this old school and won't work? do i need to get dvd recorder? open for suggestions. BTW this is one great site for the a/v challenged like myself thanks in advance :cool: