RE Gene's 12/21/21 article, 'Yamaha RX-A6A 9.2CH 8K AV Receiver Bench Test Results!'

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Trout Feeder

Audiophyte
Following Gene's summarization about the Yamaha RX-A6A and advisement to turn all the nannies off, which means total power of 282 watts/ch into 2ch @ 4ohms, does that mean 4 ohm primary speakers will need to be rated for 300W? What happens if the primaries are 4 ohm rated at 150 W? I'm researching a fitting speaker match for myself. Must the primary speakers be 300W?
Thank you
 
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shadyJ

Speaker of the House
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Following Gene's summarization about the Yamaha RX-A6A and advisement to turn all the nannies off, which means total power of 282 watts/ch into 2ch @ 4ohms, does that mean 4 ohm primary speakers will need to be rated for 300W? What happens if the primaries are 4 ohm rated at 150 W? I'm researching a fitting speaker match for myself. Must the primary speakers be 300W?
Thank you
Giving the speaker more amplification than it is rated for increases the chance of destroying the speaker. If you use the speaker within reason, that is not likely to happen. You could easily use speakers only rated for 150 watts with that receiver. However, if you crank the volume then you put those speakers at risk. You would probably hear it when the speakers are being overdriven though.
 
highfigh

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Seriously, I have no life.
Following Gene's summarization about the Yamaha RX-A6A and advisement to turn all the nannies off, which means total power of 282 watts/ch into 2ch @ 4ohms, does that mean 4 ohm primary speakers will need to be rated for 300W? What happens if the primaries are 4 ohm rated at 150 W? I'm researching a fitting speaker match for myself. Must the primary speakers be 300W?
Thank you
Power ratings for speakers show the maximum recommended, they're not instructing users to send that power level to the speakers. How loud do you need it to operate? Most people use far less power than the equipment is capable of. Peak power in important, though- if your actual output is 10W, the speakers should be able to handle 100W over a long period. However, the methods for determining speaker power handling aren't universal or necessarily realistic.

Amplifier distortion isn't always easy to identify and it doesn't sound like a distorted guitar- if the volume control indicator is near -0dB or roughly 70 on a 0-100 scale, it's time to back off. I set AVR volume limit at -10dB in every installation and have never had a customer blow a speaker.
 
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MrBoat

Audioholic Ninja
My main speakers are capable of about 120db, which is literally ear shattering. At my most rambunctious listening level these days, I aim to not listen over 87db. I bought a DB meter and cross reference that against the volume control level, for my own sake, more than anything else. All of my speakers I own are capable of 95 or more db, some of which are only rated at say, 75 WRMS, and some, 500 WRMS.

Todays speakers tend to be much more neutral than consumer grade offerings of the past, and can fool your ears to how loud they actually are, just for lack of audible distortion alone. Still, I know not to go past a certain level. I also check sound pressure levels outside on shared property lines so I don't violate noise ordinances when I feel like partying into the late hours on weekends, so I know the level on the volume control for that as well. No, it's not perfect, but still well within the speakers limits.

After playing around with the meter for a spell, I have pretty much conditioned myself to what 87db sounds/feels like no matter where I am, and I even surprise myself with just how close I can guess what I am listening at without even seeing the volume setting. I can even tell when I start to hit my sweet spot for personal reference level, which starts pretty much precisely at 84db at my main listening position.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Following Gene's summarization about the Yamaha RX-A6A and advisement to turn all the nannies off, which means total power of 282 watts/ch into 2ch @ 4ohms, does that mean 4 ohm primary speakers will need to be rated for 300W? What happens if the primaries are 4 ohm rated at 150 W? I'm researching a fitting speaker match for myself. Must the primary speakers be 300W?
Thank you
Speaker wattage ratings are a guideline as to max power, often more a point at which you would be damaging things let alone sounding good. Might try using a calculator like this to help understand the relationship of power and distance for your speakers http://www.hometheaterengineering.com/splcalculator.html
 

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