Ponzio

Ponzio

Audioholic Samurai
It's almost impossible to avoid the Ray Rice indefinite suspension headlines today but what's starting to piss me off more and more is, why did it take until today and specifically the video to suspend this guy indefinitely? I remember the first time reading about it and seeing the video and thinking he was a goner, for a year at least. I was shocked and dumfounded to see the Ravens organization get behind him and the cherry on the cake was the NFL's 2 game suspension. So why did it take this video today, released by TMZ, to finally do what they should have done from the get go? You mean the originally released video of Ray dragging her out of the elevator wasn't enough? And please don't tell it was OK since she forgave him or may have provoked him verbally. Both the NFL & the Ravens should be ashamed of themselves. I just got done watching Harbaugh's press conference do his shuck & dance routine and not once did I hear that as an organization the Ravens flubbed up or condemn Ray Rice for his despicable act.
 
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billy p

billy p

Audioholic Ninja
I can't wait to hear how Goodell skirts around this issue...I think PK nailed it....they knew...how could they not? Just an educated guess but they may have not shown the video in slow motion and why they all missed that upper cut and her head hitting the steel rail inside the elevator...lol. Come on Roger... be a man.... ;)
 
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Ponzio

Ponzio

Audioholic Samurai
that's right kids, if you wanna backhand a broad that's getting on your nerves, no big deal but take toke to wind down from the game and relieve some of the stress and pain, that's gonna cost 'ya.
 
defmoot

defmoot

Audioholic
Saw this multiple places on the 'net...


NFL Lawyer: A player got arrested for poppin' Mollie.

Roger Goodell: Two game suspension.

Lawyer: "Mollie" is a drug.

Goodell: Okay, four games then...
 
ImcLoud

ImcLoud

Audioholic Ninja
I am never surprised at what these 40+ million dollar contract players do...

I think some get a way with far worse than this, what happens out of the cameras view and is hidden by money far surpasses what we see...

There is another way to look at this though, if you slapped your wife on camera would it be this big of a deal, would you lose your job? Probably not, some jobs can and will fire you for having a record, but most don't pay too much attention to it unless you are an applicant or work in a field that is particularly strict about such things like a hospital, school, daycare, ect...

Now he should be punished for knocking her out, and I am glad he lost his job, but this happens everyday all over the country without being on the news, holding these guys to a higher standard is great but putting it all over the news is not the best idea, some kids idolise these men, so I wonder what it does to them seeing things like this...

I don't know maybe i am over thinking it, I just think it would be a much better situation if he was punished by being helped, maybe given a choice, you either never play pro ball in the us again or donate half of your salary to the Joyful heart foundation...
 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
The NFL is all about image, either real or manufactured. You can do what you want to whomever you want as long as it doesn't hit the media or they can cover it up. They will do as litte as possible to their golden boys as long as they think the public either doesn't know or doesn't care.
 
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tcarcio

Audioholic General
He is an ******* and he got what he deserved. To bad it took so long.
 
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MidnightSensi2

Audioholic Chief
I'm a little lost.. do I have this right?

1. There was the first video leaked, which, showed him dragging her out of the elevator post-punch.
2. Police confirm this was domestic violence
3. Start of season, Ray Rice gets 2 game suspension
4. Second video from inside the elevator leaked showing the actual punch, spurs reaction(?)
5. Couple hours later NFL reacts and changes their mind (likely under media pressure) and suspends him

Close?

I thought Ray Rice was done for lloonnngg ago (like, right after he beat his girlfriend).

I don't watch NFL, but, I remember they benched that one guy for smoking weed an entire season, so I figured punching your girlfriend was immediate termination. lol.

Where I'm super lost is that the facts didn't change with this 'newer' video. It doesn't show anything we didn't know. heh.

If I understand this right, the NFL truly sucks.
 
Rickster71

Rickster71

Audioholic Spartan
The team and the NFL tried to sweep it under the rug - For the money
The woman married him anyway - For the money

Shocker :rolleyes:
 
darien87

darien87

Audioholic Spartan
I can't believe that dumb broad has come out defending him. She should have packed her bags and gotten the hell out of town once the announcement was made. I'll bet she was thinking, "Oh crap. Ray's gonna be pissed. He just lost $10 million and has no future job prospects."

Who knows what they were fighting about in that elevator but I'm sure it couldn't be as bad as being suspended from the NFL and losing out on his 2014 salary. She never should have stayed with him after that beating but who knows what he'll do to her now.
 
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MidnightSensi2

Audioholic Chief
I just re-watched the video.

I /realize/ this is a stretch, but, hear me on:
She charges at him, maybe the argument they made was that since she attacked him first, it was self-defense gone overboard? (he should have used a defensive move rather than offensive?)

(Just to reinforce: I'm not defending Ray Rice at all lol, just trying to figure out the stupid NFL logic. She is guilty too though, but, doesn't have a morals clause or whatever they call them). But, her being guilty, doesn't make him any less guilty, if that makes sense.
 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
The team and the NFL tried to sweep it under the rug - For the money
The woman married him anyway - For the money

Shocker :rolleyes:
And now she's whining that the media got wind of this and is running with it.

The media giveth, and the media taketh away. Welcome to the club.

I sure hope she married or love and not money

But all is not lost: I understand that they paid Rice a cool 25 mil up front that they can't take back. If they don't act stupid, they could still be set for life. That could buy a lot of bandaids, make-up, and guinea tees.
 
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ErnieM

ErnieM

Audioholic
It doesn't matter how she provoked him - as a professional athlete he should have enough self control to not use his physical powers to retaliate. I say goodbye and good riddance to him. I hope this incident tips the balance of culture in the NFL to take domestic violence seriously. But I doubt it will. The reason this is a news item is the release of the video.
 
ImcLoud

ImcLoud

Audioholic Ninja
It doesn't matter how she provoked him - as a professional athlete he should have enough self control to not use his physical powers to retaliate. I say goodbye and good riddance to him. I hope this incident tips the balance of culture in the NFL to take domestic violence seriously. But I doubt it will. The reason this is a news item is the release of the video.
This works both ways, as a pro athelete in a sport like football you have to be aggressive to survive, and I can tell you first had when I was a little younger and after a a few hours in the gym I would leave not needing much to provoke me, its kind of built into us I think, you get pumped up and your body reacts before your brain... Now that being said I NEVER hit my wife and never would, Im 285lbs and she is 115 lol, so even if she charged me with a butcher knife I think I could disarm her with out closing my hand in self defense...

NOW another way to look at this is , some women are just not ladies, I am lucky enough to have NEVER had to raise my voice to my wife never mind my hand, but I have friends and a sister that at times I have thought to myself, "why doesn't someone smack this b!tch", lol.. About 5 months ago I was in a restaurant {not a chilis, this was a nice place} and the couple sitting next to us, moved to the table from the bar, started to argue, they were both "feeling good" and she was just being belligerent, loud, obnoxious, I wanted to move tables but the couple me and my wife were with didn't... So the manager comes over and asks them to keep it down, she was rude to him and they did quiet down but throughout dinner we could hear her remarks, they were arguing about him getting a text message from his mother and not waiting until they left the restaurant before reading it... I don't know the back story but it was obvious from what I seen she was just a b!tch... They leave before us and then about 10 minutes later we see police cars in the parking lot, from what another patron said that was walking in he was choking her on the ground and some people had to pull him off of her...

I am a little ashamed in saying it, but I understand... I never hit a girl but I seen where he was coming from, I wanted to kick the chair out from under her and had no stake in the argument.. Now the difference between wanting to do it and doing it is what separates us, I have the self control and the understanding not to hit a child or women, BUT who knows if I had to put up with that for 12 years, maybe I would be ready to forego the self control and uppercut that broad into september 2018... Where I would be at fault and deserve to get punished, but we don't know maybe he is fine with the punishment, maybe it was worth it to him???
 
BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

Audioholic Warlord
I always struggle with things like this.

The NFL wasn't in the elevator, and frankly has no damn business pretending it was.

No, no - I get the moralities clause. Heck, it should apply to everyone! You get a speeding ticket? You get sent home from your job for a week without pay. You get drunk over the weekend? Two days without pay! Karaoke? Two weeks no pay. Heck, they can decide, as they choose, without any judge, or any court, how your actions impact the company and in what manner and adjust your work and pay accordingly... Your skill set and contribution being completely irrelevant.

So, it comes down to some a-hole doing exactly what people like that always do, and in-turn, losing his career over it.

I don't agree with that. I don't think he's not an a-hole for his actions, but it was a domestic issue, and is for the police and/or his fiancee/wife to address.

I far more prefer that he publicly seek counseling, and make donations to domestic violence programs instead of being swept under the rug. He may be garbage, but he's a human as well. We all make mistakes, and not one bit of good has come from the solution the NFL came up with. Instead of addressing the problem and properly dealing with it, they got rid of any ties to it as quickly as possible which does nothing at all in terms of dealing with a very real problem. It doesn't help the Rice family in any way at all, and does zero for domestic violence issues.

It makes a bunch of people say "Good! He deserved it!" - but I bet almost none of those people wouldn't feel that way if their own job could pass such judgements.

Ray Rice acted the douche. But, the NFL didn't act appropriately, and should have stood up to help address the issue, and encourage Rice to be a better man. Instead they turned their back on him and walk away, leaving him on his own, and ignoring the real issue.

Pretty sad all around IMO.
 
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tcarcio

Audioholic General
Have I ever felt like smacking a woman or child that is being rude, disrespectful, or belligerent, Yes. The difference is I know right from wrong and I don't have the attitude that I can do whatever I want and not be held responsible. These sports figures get way to much money for what they do and in some of them it goes to their head and almost gives them a God complex and feel that whatever they do is OK. Now as for the wife I think that if she is going to put up with that and actually defend him then she is in it for the money not for the love. She is playing a dangerous game and for her sake I hope she realizes that and gets out before something even more serious happens. If he will do what he did in public then I believe he is capable of much worse in private. Also I just heard he is losing his endorsements like Nike so he is going to lose more money than he thought.
 

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