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Dr. Parthipan

Junior Audioholic
I haven't kept up to date with the latest developments on hd video. Is a 3d bluray player the thing to buy?

The other question is that I've had problems with my old dvd player connected to my plasma screen where the audio was not in sync with the visual. The dvd player had no way to control this. Do blu ray players have this ability?
And I only want to run a stereo or two channel+subwoofer setup. So is there a suitable model out there which has all these requirements?
 
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oppman99

Senior Audioholic
Buying a 3D player really depends on a few things. First, if you don't have or aren't planning on buying a 3D capable TV, then it's kind of pointless. I'm not sold on 3D TV as of now. Also consider you would need glasses for each person watching. It comes down to weighing the cost vs. how much you would use the 3D capabilities. It does seem to be the direction things are heading though.

As far as HDMI syncing, I've noticed the newer model players seem to work better. If you're having problems, try a different HDMI cable. It can make a big difference. No need to spend a huge amount of money, but get one that's well made.

Most newer AVR's have a lipsynch setting so you can change the delay. Also, just because you have the ability to hook up more speakers, doesn't mean you have to.
 
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Dr. Parthipan

Junior Audioholic
ok so I don't want 3d then because my tv isn't 3d and I don't intend to buy a 3d tv due to budget reasons.

So dont blu ray players have the capability to change lipsynch?

I am looking for to get just a blu ray player. I dont have an AVR and I dont intend to buy one so the player has to contain all the necessary connections and options.
 
JerryLove

JerryLove

Audioholic Ninja
I was considering giving the Nordost valhalla a try just to hear what difference would be made. So what differences would I expect to hear from a $4000 dollar cable, over my cheap $40 interconnect?
ok so I don't want 3d then because my tv isn't 3d and I don't intend to buy a 3d tv due to budget reasons.

So dont blu ray players have the capability to change lipsynch?

I am looking for to get just a blu ray player. I dont have an AVR and I dont intend to buy one so the player has to contain all the necessary connections and options.
So you were considering $4k interconnects: but you don't have the money for a 3D TV (65" is <$4k), and don't use an AVR ?!?

Am I the only one who finds that odd / unlikely?
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
Not sure what you mean by lipsynch issues. If you go direct to the TV, you won't have an lipsynch issue. That generally occurs when you have an AVR in the mix when sending signal via digital and then relaying to the TV. Since you don't have an AVR, I don't think you will have this issue.

I can't recall seeing a player that did not at least have stereo analog out. I use my Panasonic BD-65 in a stereo setup via an integrated amp just fine.
 
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96cobra10101

Senior Audioholic
So you were considering $4k interconnects: but you don't have the money for a 3D TV (65" is <$4k), and don't use an AVR ?!?

Am I the only one who finds that odd / unlikely?
I to, am curious.
 
3db

3db

Audioholic Slumlord
3-D is a gimmick and has been associated with health issues. Until its holographic, it ain't 3-D.
 
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Dr. Parthipan

Junior Audioholic
So you were considering $4k interconnects: but you don't have the money for a 3D TV (65" is <$4k), and don't use an AVR ?!?

Am I the only one who finds that odd / unlikely?
what i find odd is that you have taken the time and effort to reproduce those quotes from me which were in two different threads at two different times. Are you trying to make me look bad?
 
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Dr. Parthipan

Junior Audioholic
So you were considering $4k interconnects: but you don't have the money for a 3D TV (65" is <$4k), and don't use an AVR ?!?

Am I the only one who finds that odd / unlikely?
Even if i had spent 4K on interconnects that could mean I had no money left for a 4k television. So there's no inconsistency here is there?
 
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Dr. Parthipan

Junior Audioholic
Not sure what you mean by lipsynch issues. If you go direct to the TV, you won't have an lipsynch issue. That generally occurs when you have an AVR in the mix when sending signal via digital and then relaying to the TV. Since you don't have an AVR, I don't think you will have this issue.

I can't recall seeing a player that did not at least have stereo analog out. I use my Panasonic BD-65 in a stereo setup via an integrated amp just fine.
The plasma tv takes longer to process a video signal than it does for the audio signal to be processed hence the video image lags the audio.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
The plasma tv takes longer to process a video signal than it does for the audio signal to be processed hence the video image lags the audio.
I think my TV has a menu item to correct lip-sync issues. Have you checked yours?
 
JerryLove

JerryLove

Audioholic Ninja
Even if i had spent 4K on interconnects that could mean I had no money left for a 4k television. So there's no inconsistency here is there?
There are far more fundamental problems. Even the biggest cable proponent will agree that anyone with no AVR and no external speakers would get far better sound improvements from buying an AVR and speakers than from upgrading the connection between their cable box and their TV.

Forget interconnects. Buy a good TV. While you are at it: consider an AVR and some nice speakers.
 
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Dr. Parthipan

Junior Audioholic
There are far more fundamental problems. Even the biggest cable proponent will agree that anyone with no AVR and no external speakers would get far better sound improvements from buying an AVR and speakers than from upgrading the connection between their cable box and their TV.

Forget interconnects. Buy a good TV. While you are at it: consider an AVR and some nice speakers.
The reason I have no AVR is because I'm quite happy with 2 channels for watching movies. Besides there is no room for so many speakers so there is no need for an AVR if you're only using two channels? The only problem is you don't have access to the kinds of options you get on an AVR like lipsync or delay or picture control etc.
 
JerryLove

JerryLove

Audioholic Ninja
The reason I have no AVR is because I'm quite happy with 2 channels for watching movies. Besides there is no room for so many speakers so there is no need for an AVR if you're only using two channels? The only problem is you don't have access to the kinds of options you get on an AVR like lipsync or delay or picture control etc.
Or low-frequency response: or a proper powered speaker, or... well... decent sound.

So to answer your question on the other thread: no a new interconnect will do nothing for you.

To answer part of the question on this thread: The Sony PS3 is the most upgradeable and generally most capable of the bluray players.
 
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Dr. Parthipan

Junior Audioholic
Or low-frequency response: or a proper powered speaker, or... well... decent sound.

So to answer your question on the other thread: no a new interconnect will do nothing for you.

To answer part of the question on this thread: The Sony PS3 is the most upgradeable and generally most capable of the bluray players.
Capable how? Wouldn't a dedicated player have better options and facilities?
 
JerryLove

JerryLove

Audioholic Ninja
I should add that the PS3 may not be favored ergonomically. It doesn't accept most universal remotes without an adapter (the PS3 communicates RF rather than IR), and the included remote isn't exactly ergonomic when it comes to watching movies. It's a somewhat odd shape for a component as well.

But it was the first BD player on the market, and yet supports even the most modern of 3D BD's. In the end, it's a general-purpose computer with a BD drive.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
The PS3 is bluetooth and there are a number of bluetooth to IR adapters on the market, but that is an added cost. The good thing about the PS3 is updates are frequent and it is basically never out of date if you connect it to the web, plus it has a lot of additional capabilities that most other stand alone players do not. While it is an excellent player for both upscaling SD DVDs and Blu-rays, it isn't for everyone and if you are just looking for movies and music playback without other features, then less expensive players are easily capable of that.
 
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