Proper Denon settings

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Jmichaels001

Enthusiast
I have a Martin Logan 7.1.4 speaker configuration with an SVS SB-2000 sub. LCR-F100’s, C100, 2-B100’s for rear surrounds and 6 MP10’s for side surrounds and Atmos

I’m using a Denon 3700H receiver paired with an 8 channel Monolith 8250 amp and trying to make sure I have the Denon properly configured.

  1. Should I just use seven of the 8 channels on the monolith and run the 4 Atmos off the receiver to keep everything balanced?
  2. Set Assign mode = 11.1 with Dolby speakers = 4 “Floor” is set to “5ch & SB”Front Dolby & Back Dolby
  3. Atmos speakers plugged into receiver Height-1 and Height-2 outputs. I assume Height-1 for front Atmos and Height-2 for Rear Atmos?
Thanks in advance for your help and suggestions.
 
Eppie

Eppie

Audioholic Ninja
I have a Martin Logan 7.1.4 speaker configuration with an SVS SB-2000 sub. LCR-F100’s, C100, 2-B100’s for rear surrounds and 6 MP10’s for side surrounds and Atmos

I’m using a Denon 3700H receiver paired with an 8 channel Monolith 8250 amp and trying to make sure I have the Denon properly configured.

  1. Should I just use seven of the 8 channels on the monolith and run the 4 Atmos off the receiver to keep everything balanced?
  2. Set Assign mode = 11.1 with Dolby speakers = 4 “Floor” is set to “5ch & SB”Front Dolby & Back Dolby
  3. Atmos speakers plugged into receiver Height-1 and Height-2 outputs. I assume Height-1 for front Atmos and Height-2 for Rear Atmos?
Thanks in advance for your help and suggestions.
I had a look at the manual and it looks like your are correct except for one thing. When setting the ATMOS speakers, the manual refers to speaker top ATMOS enabled speakers (bouncy house speakers) as "Dolby Sp" and ceiling mounted speakers as "Height Sp". So "Floor" is set to "5ch & SB" but the "Height" should be set to "Height Sp" and "4ch".

Yes, I would use only 7 channels on the Monolith because you are powering a single center channel. Do not split left and right pairs between two different amps. Run the ATMOS off of the AVR. Yes, Height-1 is front and Height-2 is rear (page 54 of the manual).
 
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PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
I have a Martin Logan 7.1.4 speaker configuration with an SVS SB-2000 sub. LCR-F100’s, C100, 2-B100’s for rear surrounds and 6 MP10’s for side surrounds and Atmos

I’m using a Denon 3700H receiver paired with an 8 channel Monolith 8250 amp and trying to make sure I have the Denon properly configured.

  1. Should I just use seven of the 8 channels on the monolith and run the 4 Atmos off the receiver to keep everything balanced?
  2. Set Assign mode = 11.1 with Dolby speakers = 4 “Floor” is set to “5ch & SB”Front Dolby & Back Dolby
  3. Atmos speakers plugged into receiver Height-1 and Height-2 outputs. I assume Height-1 for front Atmos and Height-2 for Rear Atmos?
Thanks in advance for your help and suggestions.
In addition to Eppie's, you can also reference the follow post by Steve Dallas:

Denon AVR-X4700 AVR Review (Updated) | Page 66 | Audio Science Review (ASR) Forum

It was for the 4700 but should be the same for the 3700.
 
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tculverjames

Audiophyte
I have a Martin Logan 7.1.4 speaker configuration with an SVS SB-2000 sub. LCR-F100’s, C100, 2-B100’s for rear surrounds and 6 MP10’s for side surrounds and Atmos

I’m using a Denon 3700H receiver paired with an 8 channel Monolith 8250 amp and trying to make sure I have the Denon properly configured.

  1. Should I just use seven of the 8 channels on the monolith and run the 4 Atmos off the receiver to keep everything balanced?
  2. Set Assign mode = 11.1 with Dolby speakers = 4 “Floor” is set to “5ch & SB”Front Dolby & Back Dolby
  3. Atmos speakers plugged into receiver Height garage flooring phoenix -1 and Height-2 outputs. I assume Height-1 for front Atmos and Height-2 for Rear Atmos?
Thanks in advance for your help and suggestions.
What are the proper Denon receiver settings and approach to wiring for a system with definitive technology BP 9040s, CS9060, 4 SR9080’s and now a new SVS SB-2000 Pro.

my Denon X3700H has two LFE connections. should I wire one into the SVS and split the other one to go to the definitive technology towers?

should the setting for the towers be small with no sub or large LFE+Main? also where would you recommend I start with the frequencies?

I’m very much a newbie at this. I’ve been running the BP9040s by themselves as large no subwoofer just wired as speakers with No LFE cable but I feel I may be missing out and now with a true sub I could use your recommendations.

My room is 14x17 w/10’ ceiling and a closed door. The TV and equipment are centered on the 17’ wall.
 
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Trebdp83

Audioholic Spartan
Many will recommend setting the Front Speakers as Small with an 80Hz crossover and replacing the sealed sub with two ported models.
 
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PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
I have a Martin Logan 7.1.4 speaker configuration with an SVS SB-2000 sub. LCR-F100’s, C100, 2-B100’s for rear surrounds and 6 MP10’s for side surrounds and Atmos

I’m using a Denon 3700H receiver paired with an 8 channel Monolith 8250 amp and trying to make sure I have the Denon properly configured.

  1. Should I just use seven of the 8 channels on the monolith and run the 4 Atmos off the receiver to keep everything balanced?
  2. Set Assign mode = 11.1 with Dolby speakers = 4 “Floor” is set to “5ch & SB”Front Dolby & Back Dolby
  3. Atmos speakers plugged into receiver Height-1 and Height-2 outputs. I assume Height-1 for front Atmos and Height-2 for Rear Atmos?
Thanks in advance for your help and suggestions.
As always, there are always at least two answers to your question.

1) Try the different ways and listen to your favorite music that you are most familiar with, then you will know which way give you the effects you prefer. That's what sometimes people referred to as "trust your ears".

2) Take some measurements and you will then know which way gives you the smoothest, best overall frequency response in the audible range, that is 20-20,000 Hz. Obviously in this case the difference should mainly be in the bass range, that is, 20-500 Hz or a little higher range.

2) will require you to use a good mic such as the popular Umik-1 that is relatively cost effective, and the proper software such as REW.
Acoustic Measurement Tools: UMIK-1 (minidsp.com)
REW - Room EQ Wizard Room Acoustics Software

In my opinion, 2) is the better way because it is objective. 1) is highly subjective and is not reliable as you may change your mind, or find it hard to make up your mind to begin with.

Based on forum traffics, 1) is probably by far the most popular way as it sounds convincing, diplomatic, and reassuring (to many, especially beginners), that one can just go by their ears. It is obviously easy to do, you just hook things up and use your ears to do the rest, though one should at the minimum try to do some level matching so they don't get too easily fooled by their ears any more than they already will be.
 
Eppie

Eppie

Audioholic Ninja
@tculverjames The subwoofer out of the AVR sends both LFE information from movies and bass that is below the crossover settings on the speakers, typically 80Hz. 80Hz is usually the default on most AVRs but you can play around with that number from maybe 60 to 100. All speakers set to small have the bass below the crossover frequency sent to the sub. Speakers set to large receive a full frequency signal. If the sub is set to LFE, then it only receives LFE info and bass from small speakers. If set to LFE+Main the sub also receives bass from speakers set to large, which is the "double bass" terminology some AVRs use.

The subs on your BP9040 can be treated as additional subwoofers with the SVS SB2000. So run one subwoofer output to the SVS and the other to the DefTech LFE inputs. (You can safely use a Y-adapter to connect the two DefTech LEF jacks.) That way Audessey can adjust the subs separately. Since the BP9040 has a separate subwoofer, the recommended method would be to set the main L+R as small (like all your other speakers). If you set them to large, then the mid-woofer section will receive some of the low frequency info that the subwoofer section is getting. Some people like the added bass. That's a personal choice but if your goal is a flat or neutral response then setting them to small is the way to start.

As Peng mentioned, you need a measurement mic and REW software to really know what's going on but for some people they are content relying on their ears. Choice is yours. When you make changes, you need to run Audessey again, which will take some additional time.
 

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