Problem connecting Onkyo HT S 3200 - help please?

[costafinkel]

Okay, I hooked all cables right.

Now, when I press the button for "A" speakers, the two back speakers function perfectly. Then when I press the button for "B" speakers (getting it on AB) it not only doesnt play the other two speakers, but actually get 100% mute.

What's going on?

I also realized that the DTS logo disapears when not only on A.

I have an optical cable coming from the dvd to the receiver and an hdmi from dvd to the tv.

Please, help me urgently.

 

[costafinkel]

okay, I resseted the receiver.

now, on A only the subwoofer works, and when I put B it keeps the same thing.. only the sub working.

 

[TLS Guy]

Okay, I hooked all cables right.

Now, when I press the button for "A" speakers, the two back speakers function perfectly. Then when I press the button for "B" speakers (getting it on AB) it not only doesnt play the other two speakers, but actually get 100% mute.

What's going on?

I also realized that the DTS logo disapears when not only on A.

I have an optical cable coming from the dvd to the receiver and an hdmi from dvd to the tv.

Please, help me urgently.

You do not have it hooked up correctly. You have a 5.1 channel receiver.

You can not use A & B speakers together, as you drop the impedance too low and send the unit into protection.

Both A & B speakers use the same two amplifiers, and are intended for two channel operation when you have two sets of speakers in separate rooms, but you can not play both sets at once. You need to connect your fronts to the A speakers and the rears to the surround outputs.

Do you have a center speaker and a sub?

 

[costafinkel]

Yes, this is the HT S 3200 packet.. It comes with the receiver, two rear speakers, two front speaker, 1 center speaker and a subwoofer.

I just connect the wires to each speaker and then connected the other end to the right color in the back of the receiver.

its all organized, each speaker has a color in the back connector, as do the receiver connectors. even the cables have a color. so I connected the blue speaker with the blue cable to the blue connector in the receiver and did the same with the white, yellow, red, green and gray.

Is that wrong?

 

[TLS Guy]

Yes, this is the HT S 3200 packet.. It comes with the receiver, two rear speakers, two front speaker, 1 center speaker and a subwoofer.

I just connect the wires to each speaker and then connected the other end to the right color in the back of the receiver.

its all organized, each speaker has a color in the back connector, as do the receiver connectors. even the cables have a color. so I connected the blue speaker with the blue cable to the blue connector in the receiver and did the same with the white, yellow, red, green and gray.

Is that wrong?

I don't understand why you had anything connected to the B speakers.

Page 5 of your manual, connect your fronts to left and right A speakers. Connect center to center and the rear surrounds to rear surrounds. Connect the sub. Now go through the speaker set up procedure on pages 52 through 54.

Make sure you have good connections and no whisker shorts on any terminals.

Now go to 5 on page 54 of speaker set up and see if you can get the test tones to come out of the respective speakers.

If you can not get the tones from all speakers and the wiring is correct, then you likely fried the receiver by trying to run A & B speakers together.

If you get tones finish set up and then do the rest of your set up and assign inputs.

Read and follow your manual, it is all there.

 

[costafinkel]

Oops! You're completely right. It strang I just though I should connect the speakers to its respective colors...... But the colors for the front speakers actually reads "Front Speakers B".... So, I hooked them where it reads "Front Speakers A" now.. (banana plugs on the left of the other jacks).

Now, what I get is the following:

WORKING.... 2 front speakers, 1 subwoofer, 1 rear speaker.
NOT WORKING... 1 rear speaker, 1 central speaker.

GOD, I thought it was easier to mount a home theater.

When I select regular choices as Mono or Stereo I can watch a movie okay, tho 2 speakers wont work. But when I put it on DTS and DTS Neo:6 5.1 or Dolby Digital and Pro Logic II the soundtrack is crystal clear but the voices are muffled.

I'm sorry for giving so much trouble, but being a total layman in home-theaters (this is my first), I'm really thinking to be quite dificult.

I tried everything, but I just cant get the central and the right rear speakers to work. Do you think I could have blown them by pressing the B speakers button?

 

[TLS Guy]

Oops! You're completely right. It strang I just though I should connect the speakers to its respective colors...... But the colors for the front speakers actually reads "Front Speakers B".... So, I hooked them where it reads "Front Speakers A" now.. (banana plugs on the left of the other jacks).

Now, what I get is the following:

WORKING.... 2 front speakers, 1 subwoofer, 1 rear speaker.
NOT WORKING... 1 rear speaker, 1 central speaker.

GOD, I thought it was easier to mount a home theater.

When I select regular choices as Mono or Stereo I can watch a movie okay, tho 2 speakers wont work. But when I put it on DTS and DTS Neo:6 5.1 or Dolby Digital and Pro Logic II the soundtrack is crystal clear but the voices are muffled.

I'm sorry for giving so much trouble, but being a total layman in home-theaters (this is my first), I'm really thinking to be quite dificult.

Have you checked your wiring and connections carefully? Have you read your whole manual carefully? Did you go through the speaker set up carefully? Have you tried the tones on page 54? If so are those the speakers that emit tones and the ones that don't?

If the answer to all the above is yes, then you have blown your receiver from miss wiring.

 

[costafinkel]

There is absolutely no sound from the central and rear right. So I dont think its a case of tone?

**** I just bought these ;[[[.. Do you think I have blown them just by pressing the B button? I have pressed the B and A buttons many times trying to test it with different configs, but I didnt think I could have blown the speakers just by that.

 

[TLS Guy]

There is absolutely no sound from the central and rear right. So I dont think its a case of tone?

**** I just bought these ;[[[.. Do you think I have blown them just by pressing the B button? I have pressed the B and A buttons many times trying to test it with different configs, but I didnt think I could have blown the speakers just by that.

You would not blow the speakers, but the receiver output stages can be blown with speaker miss wiring easily. You were driving the receiver into protect mode judging by your post and that really stresses it and is a good way to cause failure.

You have not answered all my questions though, please do.

 

[AVRat]

Those are test tones to see if indeed the receiver is sending a signal to the speakers. Assuming the speakers are hooked up properly.

 

[TLS Guy]

Those are test tones to see if indeed the receiver is sending a signal to the speakers. Assuming the speakers are hooked up properly.

We need Adam the "slumlord" on this one. He has the patience of Job!

 

[Rickster71]

Did you leave it powered up when you swapped wires around?

 

[AVRat]

I think he's been busy with work lately. I have the patience, but my disability limits my keyboard skills/speed. My mother also says that I have the patience of Job!

 

[TLS Guy]

I think he's been busy with work lately. I have the patience, but my disability limits my keyboard skills/speed. My mother also says that I have the patience of Job!

Nice to know we have another patient guy around!

I have a nasty feeling that this guy has caused damage though, by not reading the manual.

 

[costafinkel]

First of all, I too, must thank you for your guys's patience. And excuse myself for taking so long to reply, but indeed these last days where impossible to me. But this HT thing was eating me inside the whole day while I was working, so I came home 1AM decided to take this to the bottom end.

okay, I was already quite in despair, so I start on doing all kinds of tests.. and FORTUNATELY in one unusual test I put the friggin' machine to work perfectly. I was actually, very reluctant to do that test because IT, could actually really blow the speakers, but since I was hopeless and already thinking they were blown, I tried.

Here it is : All the cables get divided in two on the edge, right? These two extremities on both sides will connect on the speaker and on the receiver jack. On each side, the division is one colored and one half-colored, half-black. For example: Each end of the blue cable ends has one part blue, and one part blue and black.

So, narturally I connected the blue part on the hole that had a blue jack in the speaker, and the blue-and-black part on the hole with a black jack of the speaker. And of, course, I did exactly the same on the receiver jacks, cuz I understand that you gotta stick the exactly same part of the cable on the speaker and the receiver, because of the polarity, and a switched cable could even blow the speaker, right???

So, I checked and re-checked all the connections and they were all 100% CORRECT, with the polarities completely right. At a stage of despair and complete bleakness I tried the absurd : I switched the sides of the cables of the red (front right) and green (central) and BINGO!!! Everything is working!!!!...

What would you understand by that?? A defect on the cables? Can this lead to a problem in near future?

 

[TLS Guy]

First of all, I too, must thank you for your guys's patience. And excuse myself for taking so long to reply, but indeed these last days where impossible to me. But this HT thing was eating me inside the whole day while I was working, so I came home 1AM decided to take this to the bottom end.

okay, I was already quite in despair, so I start on doing all kinds of tests.. and FORTUNATELY in one unusual test I put the friggin' machine to work perfectly. I was actually, very reluctant to do that test because IT, could actually really blow the speakers, but since I was hopeless and already thinking they were blown, I tried.

Here it is : All the cables get divided in two on the edge, right? These two extremities on both sides will connect on the speaker and on the receiver jack. On each side, the division is one colored and one half-colored, half-black. For example: Each end of the blue cable ends has one part blue, and one part blue and black.

So, narturally I connected the blue part on the hole that had a blue jack in the speaker, and the blue-and-black part on the hole with a black jack of the speaker. And of, course, I did exactly the same on the receiver jacks, cuz I understand that you gotta stick the exactly same part of the cable on the speaker and the receiver, because of the polarity, and a switched cable could even blow the speaker, right???

So, I checked and re-checked all the connections and they were all 100% CORRECT, with the polarities completely right. At a stage of despair and complete bleakness I tried the absurd : I switched the sides of the cables of the red (front right) and green (central) and BINGO!!! Everything is working!!!!...

What would you understand by that?? A defect on the cables? Can this lead to a problem in near future?

I can not make any sense whatever of this post.

 

[costafinkel]

What is it that you dont understand?

 

[AVRat]

I think he meant this part because you lost me there as well.

At a stage of despair and complete bleakness I tried the absurd : I switched the sides of the cables of the red (front right) and green (central) and BINGO!!! Everything is working!!!!...

Did you run the test tones to verify the speakers are receiving the proper signal??????????