Power Amp: Emotiva vs Outlaw

darien87

darien87

Audioholic Spartan
I was on the Emotiva site, and noticed the 7 channel amp I was looking at had reduced wattage for the rear 2 channels, only 50 watts each. That would reduce the volume of those channels and you would not be hearing the movie as it was recorded. The amp was pretty cheap, however, and I hope they'll address this design in their upcoming products. I'd be willing to pay more for 7 equal channels of power.
Not really true, since you should be level matching all of your channels anyway. It just means that those 2 channels will have to work harder than the others to produce the same volume.
 
codexp3

codexp3

Audioholic
ok, but I think I still prefer that my electronics not be able to double as a George Forman grill! :D

True...but, if they get hot enough to make Jiffy Pop you've got popcorn and a movie!
 
jcPanny

jcPanny

Audioholic Ninja
Emotiva LPA-1

FYI,
I am running my ELT525 surround channels off of the 6/7 channel of my LPA-1 amp. It is working great driving these speakers which have a low sensitivity (83 dB @1w/1m). If you think about it, most midfi receivers top out at 50-60 watts with all channels driven.

Also, the upcomming LPA-2 will offer 7 full power channels but it will cost $150-200 more than the current LPA-1 price. The LPA-1 is a great deal at $500.

The comparable outlaw receiver with 125 Watts x 7 channels costs $900 on sale.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
I am starting to even wonder if an amplifier is even necessary. I read somewhere that most of the power from an amplifier goes to reproducting bass. If my subwoofer is doing everything below 80Hz than my receiver should have plenty of power for the satellites. Most receivers today being at least 100 watts x 7, and most being able to give at least 80 with all channels driven, is it still necessary to have an extra amplifier ?
We have this myth again and again. The power divide for most program material is 400 Hz. Although a lot of speakers will draw more power below 400Hz, if they are diffraction loss compensated. The power below 80 Hz is minute, unless you are a bass head demanding bass at unnatural levels. The problem is Hollywood again! They boost effects in the LFE channel 20 db. So in movies there are episodic high power demands below 80HZ.

The most pervasive and WORST myth on these forums, is that if you buy a huge powerful sub, the rest of the system has nothing to do. That is just plain nonsense, and yet it persists on these forums again and again.

My amps that supply the two drivers producing sound below 80 Hz never even get warm, unless playing organ music with a lot of 32ft stops pulled, or a battle scene such as in Master and Commander. It is the amps taking the frequencies above 80Hz that really get the work out.

Even in my last system, and I still use these speakers as the rear surrounds, which are biamped at 180 HZ, it is the amp handling the signal above 180Hz that gets much hotter than the one supplying the signal below 180Hz.

We need to put this misleading myth to bed once and for all.
 
jp_over

jp_over

Full Audioholic
We have this myth again and again. The power divide for most program material is 400 Hz. Although a lot of speakers will draw more power below 400Hz, if they are diffraction loss compensated. The power below 80 Hz is minute, unless you are a bass head demanding bass at unnatural levels. The problem is Hollywood again! They boost effects in the LFE channel 20 db. So in movies there are episodic high power demands below 80HZ.

The most pervasive and WORST myth on these forums, is that if you buy a huge powerful sub, the rest of the system has nothing to do. That is just plain nonsense, and yet it persists on these forums again and again.

My amps that supply the two drivers producing sound below 80 Hz never even get warm, unless playing organ music with a lot of 32ft stops pulled, or a battle scene such as in Master and Commander. It is the amps taking the frequencies above 80Hz that really get the work out.

Even in my last system, and I still use these speakers as the rear surrounds, which are biamped at 180 HZ, it is the amp handling the signal above 180Hz that gets much hotter than the one supplying the signal below 180Hz.

We need to put this misleading myth to bed once and for all.
Dr. Mark,

Though this thread is a bit dated, I think you just cost me $1K in Outlaw monoblock 2200 amps... ;) Of course, my arm doesn't need much twisting!
 
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