Rule #1 in business: Any deal that you're not willing to walk away from in a split second makes you the sucker. Money talks. I was in a similar circumstance two years ago on my receiver, where he was asking $2,800.00 for it. I told the salesperson I have $2,000.00 right now. Of course he had to ask "the manager". I would have walked in a second if there was a counter-offer...there was none, just acceptance of my offer. Imho, you ought to set your own firm, non-negotiable (but realistic, if you truly want it) price, offer it, and immediately walk if they don't accept. I don't have a lot of time to dilly-dally for a couple of hundred dollars, and I believe I adequately convey that when I negotiate. Not exactly what you asked for, but perhaps, something more useful...the art of "making the deal." Cheers!