Please Help! Buying today

[fernalfer123]

OK i have recieved all my speakers. 4 x-ls from AV123 (Fronts and surrounds). 1 x-cs (center) and awaiting my MFW 15 inch Sub.

Now i am ordering a receiver today regardless but would like for you guys which i am quite sure are more knowledgable in this department help me choose.

My receiver choices are:

Pionerr Elite 82 or 84

or

Yamaha 1700, 2600,

I will be hooking an HD-DVD player HDMI right to TV and audio to receiver. My X-Box 360 will go thru reciever by component out HDMI to TV. So the whole upconversion methods of each player really don't come into play for me. I will be using this for mostly watching movies.

So any comments on which is better for me will help me decide which one comes home to me today. That LFE problem in the pioneers concern me aswell.

 

[Nuglets]

I am a Yamaha fan myself. I have never liked Pioneer speaker's or car deck's so I won't ever buy Pioneer. That doesn't mean anything though except that I don't prefer Pioneer. I think you will be happy going with any of those choices so you should just pick the one that seems like the best deal and has what you need. I would pick the Yamaha 1700 because I'm assuming it's cheaper and it doesn't lack anything that the 2600 has that I would need.

 

[zumbo]

Another vote for Yamaha.

 

[speakerman39]

Hands down I would go for the 84. The mosfets really make a difference in sound quality as compared to the bi-polar transitors found in the 82. I have owned Yamaha and now own a Pioneer 1015 and I prefer the Pioneer. However, the 2600 is an awesome receiver as well. Just prefer the Elite. Good luck in your decision. Let us know what you decide.

 

[speakerman39]

OK i have recieved all my speakers. 4 x-ls from AV123 (Fronts and surrounds). 1 x-cs (center) and awaiting my MFW 15 inch Sub.

Now i am ordering a receiver today regardless but would like for you guys which i am quite sure are more knowledgable in this department help me choose.

My receiver choices are:

Pionerr Elite 82 or 84

or

Yamaha 1700, 2600,

I will be hooking an HD-DVD player HDMI right to TV and audio to receiver. My X-Box 360 will go thru reciever by component out HDMI to TV. So the whole upconversion methods of each player really don't come into play for me. I will be using this for mostly watching movies.

So any comments on which is better for me will help me decide which one comes home to me today. That LFE problem in the pioneers concern me aswell.

Yeah I am anxious to see just how good the MFW15 is going to be. Getting
(2) for a grand would be awesome to say the least. Not sure how much more shipping would be though.

 

[bhbkblbs]

Yamaha!!!!!

 

[Seth=L]

It is all subjective. Yamaha has a good rep for home theater. I think that Pioneer Elite has a warmer sound due to the preamp. Yamaha is more straight foward. I have owned both Pioneer Elite and Yamaha receivers, either is great I prefer Yamaha for most purposes.

 

[fernalfer123]

Hey thanks for the responses. I actually have not yet purchased but it is down to the Yamaha RX-V1700 or the Pioneer Elite 82.

It's such a toss up.

 

[Seth=L]

Hey thanks for the responses. I actually have not yet purchased but it is down to the Yamaha RX-V1700 or the Pioneer Elite 82.

It's such a toss up.

Any other things that we can help with?

 

[speakerman39]

It is all subjective. Yamaha has a good rep for home theater. I think that Pioneer Elite has a warmer sound due to the preamp. Yamaha is more straight foward. I have owned both Pioneer Elite and Yamaha receivers, either is great I prefer Yamaha for most purposes.

Hey Seth thought I would share some of my experiences. Keep in mind these are my own personal observations and the opinions I have derived are mine. Dont want to step on any toes so to speak. I originally bought a Yamaha RX-V650. Really liked it and up till that time it was the best I had owned. The 650 had decent amounts of power and lots of tweaking capabilities. Later, I decided to upgrade and go with another Yammie. This time it was the RX-V757. Liked it as well BUT was really disappointed with the power output. I mean the 650 had more. Really liked the LCD remote and once again lots of tweaking capabilities. Luckily, sold it(757) and bought me a Pioneer 1015. One thing is for certain-this thing is a beast. Has lots of power and the sound seemed to be more solid if you will. Lots of tweaking capabilities as well BUT the 650 and the 757 had a bit more. For example, the 650 and the 757 both had more selections for the X-over setting. For some reason 90 Hz sounded a bit better to me in MY living-room. The 1015 does not have a 90 Hz setting but either 100 Hz or 80Hz. Of course, the 80 Hz still sounds great BUT 90 Hz sounded better. However, in over-all performance the 1015 out classes both the 650 and the 757 respectively. This is especially true with respect to power. Maybe that is why the 1015 outweighed both the 650 and the 757 by around 6 lbs. Anyhow, these are just my opinions and that is why I would get the 84 and never look back.

 

[Seth=L]

Hey Seth thought I would share some of my experiences. Keep in mind these are my own personal observations and the opinions I have derived are mine. Dont want to step on any toes so to speak. I originally bought a Yamaha RX-V650. Really liked it and up till that time it was the best I had owned. The 650 had decent amounts of power and lots of tweaking capabilities. Later, I decided to upgrade and go with another Yammie. This time it was the RX-V757. Liked it as well BUT was really disappointed with the power output. I mean the 650 had more. Really liked the LCD remote and once again lots of tweaking capabilities. Luckily, sold it(757) and bought me a Pioneer 1015. One thing is for certain-this thing is a beast. Has lots of power and the sound seemed to be more solid if you will. Lots of tweaking capabilities as well BUT the 650 and the 757 had a bit more. For example, the 650 and the 757 both had more selections for the X-over setting. For some reason 90 Hz sounded a bit better to me in MY living-room. The 1015 does not have a 90 Hz setting but either 100 Hz or 80Hz. Of course, the 80 Hz still sounds great BUT 90 Hz sounded better. However, in over-all performance the 1015 out classes both the 650 and the 757 respectively. This is especially true with respect to power. Maybe that is why the 1015 outweighed both the 650 and the 757 by around 6 lbs. Anyhow, these are just my opinions and that is why I would get the 84 and never look back.

That was great speakerman. Yes Yamaha is better in the features department and is more often than not more user friendly. I was considering getting the 1016 but ended up with the Yamaha because it was open box and it is a tank. It has a good load of power, as well it should being THX certified makes these demands. I would imagine the Pioneer would be just as powerful as the Yamaha I have.

 

[jsanfilippo5]

OK i have recieved all my speakers. 4 x-ls from AV123 (Fronts and surrounds). 1 x-cs (center) and awaiting my MFW 15 inch Sub.

Now i am ordering a receiver today regardless but would like for you guys which i am quite sure are more knowledgable in this department help me choose.

My receiver choices are:

Pionerr Elite 82 or 84

or

Yamaha 1700, 2600,

I will be hooking an HD-DVD player HDMI right to TV and audio to receiver. My X-Box 360 will go thru reciever by component out HDMI to TV. So the whole upconversion methods of each player really don't come into play for me. I will be using this for mostly watching movies.

So any comments on which is better for me will help me decide which one comes home to me today. That LFE problem in the pioneers concern me aswell.

Have you hooked up the x-ls to anything yet? I just ordered a pair today - cant wait to get them....

I just purchased a yamaha htr-5960 reciever, im sure the yamahas you are looking at are muc better than mine - but I am extremely happy with it, i had a pioneer vsx-816 and hated it.

 

[fernalfer123]

Thats funny my x-ls are on order as well. I have received my x-cs center channel but can't wait to get the sub and the x-ls to see how they sound.

When you get yours let me know what you think and i will too.

 

[speakerman39]

Have you hooked up the x-ls to anything yet? I just ordered a pair today - cant wait to get them....

I just purchased a yamaha htr-5960 reciever, im sure the yamahas you are looking at are muc better than mine - but I am extremely happy with it, i had a pioneer vsx-816 and hated it.

At one time I had a Pioneer 515 if I remember correctly and was not too impressed. Would imagine the 816 would not be much better. However, there is a big difference between the 515/816 and the 1015. Further, there is a HUGE difference between the 1015 and the Elite 84. As mentioned earlier, at one time I had a Yamaha RX-V650 which had good features and decent power whereas the Yamaha RX-V757 had good features BUT the power capabilities were EXTREMELY disappointing to say the least. Other than a few tweaking capablities my 1015 will do everything the 650/757 will due BUT provides for a MUCH fuller sound and plenty of power-Never seems to run out of gas so to speak. The Elite 84 is even better in this regard as well and offers much more tweaking capabilities. Lastly, the MCACC auto room calibration on my 1015 is much more accurate than the Yamaha YPAO on the 650/757 respectively. It is my understanding the Elite 84 has an even more advanced MCACC which will be even better. Sure, the RX-V2600/2700 are both excellent receivers and would serve you well BUT imho the Elite 84 is just a bit better over-all. Personally, I also think the Elite 84 looks much better. Remember, the Elite 82/1016 has the bi-polar transistors whereas the Elite 84/1015 use the mosfets which offer faster switching capabilities thus resulting in less heat and thereby improving sound quality. Am no expert in this regard just rehashing what I have read and seen for myself. Hope this helps. Good luck in your decision. You are sure to come out a winner either way you go. Always get what YOU prefer because what works for me or others may NOT really work for YOU. Only YOU know what YOU like and what YOU prefer. As always, we all have a certain budget we have to stay within and it looks like to me you are well on your way. Have a great day everybody.