pioneer reciever hook up help

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rainman671

Enthusiast
hi all i am new hear, and i need some help!this is what i have,i upgraded my reciever to a pioneer vsx-82txs, ahd i have a 52 in lcd tv,first i have 3 hdmi inputs on the reciever and one hdmi out, i have the tv hooked up to the reciever (hdmi out on reciever to a hdmi on tv) hear is the question do i need to have RCA interconnects from the tv to the reciever to get audio? and do i run my dvd thru the reciever (dvd has hdmi)or run it thru the reciever? i can not get audio thru reciever with out the RCA interconnects, or do i just not have the reciever set up correct, please if anyone will help me that will be great

thanks ray
 
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tjlmbklr

Junior Audioholic
First off, good choice on the Pioneer, I have that very unit.
There are a couple of small issues people are having with it's upscaling that hopefully the new firmware should fix, I am getting mine flashed on Friday.
As for your connection, I also have HDMI out to my TV. the HDMI is supposed to be able to handle audio as well as video (there has been know issues) But for now your best bet is to run the HDMI from you cable/satalite box, into the Pioneer. Then set the 'Input' settings accordingly. (in the set up screen on your Pioneer) I personally run Fiber optic for sound Then you will get full digital sound). You can select what cable source you want for what componant (audio/video) in this menu. As for the DVD you must have a Upscaling model (because you stated it uses HDMI) So you will not want to use the scaler in the Pioneer, you DVD player should do a better job of that.

So to sum it up. Run all video through your Pioneer (use set up menu). And run all sound (my choice fiber optic) through Pioneer as well. For now if you don't want to spend the money on fiber optic, try using the HDMI's audio carring cababilities.

Hope this helps

TJ
 
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rainman671

Enthusiast
tj,thanks for the responce,hear is what i have done, i got a hdmi cable from my out on the reciever to a in on my tv! if i use the setup menu on the reciever i can see it on my tv,but i can not get audio from my tv to the reciever? so i got a fiber optic cable,hooked it up to my tv and to my reciever(is there any special input on the reciever i shoud use) now if i switch my reciever to tv i get a digital signal on the display of the reciever and great sound, and you say not to use the reciever for the blu ray player? should i just hdmi it right to the tv or is there a better way? let me no what you think.thanks for your help,
ray
 
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tjlmbklr

Junior Audioholic
rainman671 said:
tj,thanks for the responce,hear is what i have done, i got a hdmi cable from my out on the reciever to a in on my tv! if i use the setup menu on the reciever i can see it on my tv,but i can not get audio from my tv to the reciever? so i got a fiber optic cable,hooked it up to my tv and to my reciever(is there any special input on the reciever i shoud use) now if i switch my reciever to tv i get a digital signal on the display of the reciever and great sound, and you say not to use the reciever for the blu ray player? should i just hdmi it right to the tv or is there a better way? let me no what you think.thanks for your help,
ray
By all means you can run the HDMI from your blu ray to receiver then out. You'd probably have to set the Pioneer for pass through using the "AV Parameter" (I am a little unsure here) If you do this then you are sending the 'native' signal from the device, in this case your blu ray to the TV. This is one of the reasons I settled on this model receiver. It will 'pass through' 1080p for blu ray (which I don't have yet) The other option, is set it(HDMI) to 'AMP' but I don't know for sure if it will degrade the 1080p signal. 'AMP' means it doesn't go through 'un-touched', so it may get a signal drop. I'll have to check on that one for sure.

I guess I need to ask one very important question; are you using this receiver for surround sound (meaning other speakers then you TV)? If so you only want one cable leaving the Pioneer, that being HDMIfor your video source. If you were running any other video cable like Componant or S-video, you'd want to up convert it so it all will exit as HDMI. for the fiber optic (which is sound only), don't hook it to the TV. Remeber HDMI will carry sound, but you have the option to get your sound from another source, in this case Fiber Optic.
 
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rainman671

Enthusiast
hi thanks again, i am a little confused, why should i not use the fiber optic from my reciever to my tv for the digital audio?, i tryed to get audio thru the hdmi cable that goes from the hdmi out on my reciever to the tv but i can not fet it to work, and i understand about the hdmi from the bluray player to the reciever or direct to the tv ,is it what do you think is the best for quality of video? let me no what you think

thanks ray
 
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MDS

Audioholic Spartan
rainman671 said:
why should i not use the fiber optic from my reciever to my tv for the digital audio?
1). It is unlikely your TV has a digital input. Some of them have digital outputs which you could use if you were using the TV as the source of audio and video; ie using its tuner instead of a cable box or satellite dish.

2). You don't need to get audio to the TV. You need to get it to the receiver and the receiver will send the audio to your speakers. If you can't get audio using the single HDMI cable, then use a digital audio cable (optical or coax). The HDMI cable can still carry the video.
 
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tjlmbklr

Junior Audioholic
Well it depends; are you running a surround set up, or are you only using the TV's speakers? With a great unit like the Pioneer, I hope your using it to it's potential.

Remember you can if you choose, get sound through HDMI. So if you are only using your TV for sound then you will either A: need enough HDMI inputs on the TV to accommodate all your components. Or B: have some sort of switcher much like your Pioneer. With the Pioneer as a switcher, you have all video and sound going in all the appropriate plug in's. It then distributes the sound and video from whatever device you want to hear and see on the TV, meaning SAT/VCR/DVD/LD...etc, etc. As for using your TV for the sound (which I still don't know if you are) then I guess first it would depend on you TV. I haven't used my TV for sound in about 7 or so years. As for the best quality HDMI is rated the best, but some still use Componant video. I am 90% sure you can use it for a 1080p signal which is currently the best (not 1080i), but you'd have to research that out. I'd just stick with HDMI (and don't be fooled and buy the most expensive, all hype). It is a true digital signal, you have it or you don't. You only want the sound cable, whether it is HDMI, or fiber optic (your choice), coming from its source DVD/SAT/Cable box, to the receiver. And remember, because the HDMI will carry sound, you have to set the receiver to use the fiber optic for the sound carrier (if that's what your using). Then the sound is processed, and comes out the speakers. Only thing you need is to see what you hear, this is the video cable that leaves the receiver and goes to the TV (usually label 'Monitor out')

I am glad to help, but you need to tell me if you’re using the receiver for surround (other speakers then the TV's).

I am off to bed, I'll check again in the morning.

Best of luck
 
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rainman671

Enthusiast
hi thanks again for the info, i will clarify, yes i have the reciever hooked up to (other speakers) right now i am useing the reciever to get the tv audio to my reciever, my direct tv is not hooked up yet ,so i have the cable going direct to the tv, and i gave a hdmi cable going from the tv to the out on the reciever, and can not get audio to the reciever? now i have a fiber optic cable going from the tv out to the reciever in, now i get audio, but i thought i could do it with the hdmi cable ,but the cable is on the output hdmi on the reciever, so when i hook up my hd direct tv box i should use hdmi from it to the reciever,then i will not need the fiber optic from the tv to the reciever, how does this sound?
thanks again
 
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tjlmbklr

Junior Audioholic
rainman671 said:
hi thanks again for the info, i will clarify, yes i have the reciever hooked up to (other speakers) right now i am useing the reciever to get the tv audio to my reciever, my direct tv is not hooked up yet ,so i have the cable going direct to the tv, and i gave a hdmi cable going from the tv to the out on the reciever, and can not get audio to the reciever? now i have a fiber optic cable going from the tv out to the reciever in, now i get audio, but i thought i could do it with the hdmi cable ,but the cable is on the output hdmi on the reciever, so when i hook up my hd direct tv box i should use hdmi from it to the reciever,then i will not need the fiber optic from the tv to the reciever, how does this sound?
thanks again
If you are able to get the audio without an issue using the Fiber optic, then stick with it. Remember I stated earlier that HDMI is known for it's issues, sound being one. It could be a confliction due to the fact that you are tring to get sound from the same source that you are using as your viewing monitor. But this doesn't mean that when you get your DTV box set up, that you won't be able to use the HDMI for sound. I am able to use mine for sound, I just choose not to mainly because I already had the Fiber optic cable as a independent sound source.
 
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GBJeffrey

Audiophyte
Pioneer VSX-82TXS digital sound

Hello everyone!

I just purchased my Pioneer Elite VSX-82TXS receiver about week ago. I finally got a chance to hook it up the other day. The problem I am having and I am not sure if this is really a problem or not, but maybe some one can help clear my confusion.

I connected my HD cable box to my receiver via HDMI and then the receiver to my 46' DLP via HDMI cable using the monitor out. I ran the MCACC auto setup. My problem comes in when I am watching my TV and the way my audio signal is being detected. If I am watching a Hi-Def channel being broadcasted in 5.1, my display reads "Digital" with the dolby symbol and my indicators all light up when the sound is being projected through all my speakers. Now if I watch another Hi-Def channel or just a channel being broadcasted in digital, my front left and right speaker indicators light with the word "Digital" right next to them, and my display reads "Stereo". Does this mean my receiver is playing it in Stereo format verses digital? How can I correct this? My old receiver played all these channels in Digital format and displayed "Dolby Digital" or just "digital", not stereo. I have tried pressing the signal input on the remote and all I get is "SigHDMI". What am I have I missed or doing wrong?

Thanks for your help!
 
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zumbo

Audioholic Spartan
GBJeffrey said:
Hello everyone!

I just purchased my Pioneer Elite VSX-82TXS receiver about week ago. I finally got a chance to hook it up the other day. The problem I am having and I am not sure if this is really a problem or not, but maybe some one can help clear my confusion.

I connected my HD cable box to my receiver via HDMI and then the receiver to my 46' DLP via HDMI cable using the monitor out. I ran the MCACC auto setup. My problem comes in when I am watching my TV and the way my audio signal is being detected. If I am watching a Hi-Def channel being broadcasted in 5.1, my display reads "Digital" with the dolby symbol and my indicators all light up when the sound is being projected through all my speakers. Now if I watch another Hi-Def channel or just a channel being broadcasted in digital, my front left and right speaker indicators light with the word "Digital" right next to them, and my display reads "Stereo". Does this mean my receiver is playing it in Stereo format verses digital? How can I correct this? My old receiver played all these channels in Digital format and displayed "Dolby Digital" or just "digital", not stereo. I have tried pressing the signal input on the remote and all I get is "SigHDMI". What am I have I missed or doing wrong?

Thanks for your help!
Digital is digital.
Digital stereo.
Digital 5.1.

One is being broadcast in stereo.
The other is broadcast in 5.1.

The only way to change it is to call the channel you are viewing and complain.:D

I didn't realize this was a thread Hijacking until I posted my reply. GBJeffrey, it is not polite to Hijack someones thread.
 
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tjlmbklr

Junior Audioholic
zumbo said:
Digital is digital.
Digital stereo.
Digital 5.1.

One is being broadcast in stereo.
The other is broadcast in 5.1.

The only way to change it is to call the channel you are viewing and complain.:D

I didn't realize this was a thread Hijacking until I posted my reply. GBJeffrey, it is not polite to Hijack someones thread.
I guess I am new still too new to the 'forum world' because i do the same thing. I guess it depends on the type of question(s), and how it is being responded to. I don't mind, but if you and everyone else thinks his question is better answered in it's own thread, then I see the point.

Anyway GBjeffery, most peolple listen to stereo broadcasts in 7-channel stereo.
 
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zumbo

Audioholic Spartan
tjlmbklr said:
I guess I am new still too new to the 'forum world' because i do the same thing. I guess it depends on the type of question(s), and how it is being responded to. I don't mind, but if you and everyone else thinks his question is better answered in it's own thread, then I see the point.
Well, I clicked on the thread and read his question. I thought it was the first one, and replied to it instead of the OP.

tjlmbklr said:
Anyway GBjeffery, most peolple listen to stereo broadcasts in 7-channel stereo.
Incorrect. 7-channel stereo is to be used for low volume background music. Like a small crowd is over and talking.

7-channel stereo is not meant for loud playback.

I use PLII movie for 2-channel movies. I use PLII music if I want a broadcast 2-channel concert in surround.

All audio(music only) sources are played back in original format.

The best place to get this information is in your owners manual. It is very important to read owners manuals with anything you buy.
 
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