rgriffin, as an unbiased onlooker, you are very hypocritical in the way you"hype" your Pioneer. You started a long thread that critical of people who "hype" Yamaha. You can call it what you want, but you came off as sarcastic, about the whole thing. Now all you ever do is hype up your reciever as the best thing. It is nice you like your reciever, it is a nice machine, but you exhibit the same behavior you were critical of. You can go on and be a coward and say you weren't being critical if you want, just asking a question. You know and I as well many others know exactly where you were coming from. Why the fact that Yamaha is having a spike in popularity bothers you, no one will ever know. It is ridiculous, don't you know these popularity spikes are cyclical in nature. A few years back, Pioneer was the flavor of the month. Right now, Yamaha appears to be giving people all the quality of their competition and doing it cheaper when you compare it all as a whole. I own a Denon, and like it plenty, but I will hard pressed to get annoyed at others for liking Yamaha more. I have been shopping around, and right now, Yamaha is doing a lot of things right. Everyone has their preference for sound, and features, and Yamaha is winning the battle right now. This does not mean your Pioneer is a bad machine. If it bothers you so much that you don't have the most popular machine for the moment, you should have bought a Yamaha.