Piece of crap Samsung

CaliHwyPatrol

CaliHwyPatrol

Audioholic Chief
My Samsung BDP1400 Blu Ray player is by far the worst piece of AV equipment I've ever owned. I bought it September of 2007, and several months ago it started having trouble reading discs. I have to put the disc in up to 40 times before it will finally play. Then, most of the times when it does play, the movie will start skipping horribly, like it is scratched or dirty. I ran a lens cleaner through there and it did nothing. I've kept it up to date with firmware.

My JVC DVD player that I bought in 2003 still works like a champ, and it's seen 100 times the use of this. Even my HD DVD player hasn't had any issues.

I hope nobody else has to go through this. It's very frustrating. :(
 
CaliHwyPatrol

CaliHwyPatrol

Audioholic Chief
Ok, I'm looking at another BR player, and was looking at the Sony S550. From poking around here a bit it seems like a solid player, and I can be lazy and use the remote right off the bat with my Sony TV.

I think I fail with understanding the TrueHD and DTSMA stuff though. Do you need a receiver that can handle those, or can I somehow pull this off with my Marantz? It looks like one of the main differences between the S350 and the S550 is the analog outs, so I would probably take advantage of that.

Thoughts?
 
avliner

avliner

Audioholic Chief
I'd suggest you to grab either the Sony 550 or the Panny 55, as both are the most complete/affordable players avaialable.

Regarding to the new HD codecs, both players internally decodes Dolby TrueHD /DTS-HD MA into LPCM, so you'll be fine with your Marantz, as it handles LPCM just fine!

Regards, Chuck
 
mperfct

mperfct

Audioholic Samurai
We're in the same boat...and for what it's worth, I'd buy the Panasonic BD35. It'll save you roughly $100 over the BD55. The BD55 has 7.1 analog outs and it can play DivX if I remember right, but that was the only difference.

Sorry to hear about your Samsung experience. Did they not offer any support (or trade up to 1500?)
 
CaliHwyPatrol

CaliHwyPatrol

Audioholic Chief
We're in the same boat...and for what it's worth, I'd buy the Panasonic BD35. It'll save you roughly $100 over the BD55. The BD55 has 7.1 analog outs and it can play DivX if I remember right, but that was the only difference.

Sorry to hear about your Samsung experience. Did they not offer any support (or trade up to 1500?)
I don't want another Samsung. I've never owned a Panasonic anything, so I'm a bit apprehensive to buy into a new (to me) brand. Sony has yet to let me down, no matter how crappy their business practices.

I'd suggest you to grab either the Sony 550 or the Panny 55, as both are the most complete/affordable players avaialable.

Regarding to the new HD codecs, both players internally decodes Dolby TrueHD /DTS-HD MA into LPCM, so you'll be fine with your Marantz, as it handles LPCM just fine!

Regards, Chuck
Would I achieve LPCM through the analog outputs, or can I do it through optical?
 
Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
I've never owned a Panasonic anything, so I'm a bit apprehensive to buy into a new (to me) brand.
Totally understandable...I'm the same way. I'll just say that I have a Panasonic DVD changer from around the turn of the century that has worked flawlessly for me. I've owned other Panasonic products with great results, too. I'm just throwing in my experience for consideration. If you're happy with Sony, that's a good path to take.


Would I achieve LPCM through the analog outputs, or can I do it through optical?
The optical output can't handle the necessary bandwidth for the new lossless codecs. I believe that the analog outputs will allow you to transmit the lossless codecs (already decoded by the BD player) to your receiver.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
Another vote for the Sony 500 or Panny 50 (5.1 Analog) or 55 (7.1 Analog).

Since your receiver does NOT do internal decoding for TrueHD/DTS-MA, you need a player that can.

I've owned both Sony (both PS3 & stand-alone player) & and Panasonic BD players. I think they are both great.

But recently, I believe the Panny 50 did the best of any tested BD players in performance.
 
J

jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
I don't want another Samsung. I've never owned a Panasonic anything, so I'm a bit apprehensive to buy into a new (to me) brand. Sony has yet to let me down, no matter how crappy their business practices.
The pana is the better player. There is a very long thread discussing ONLY the bd-55 vs the s550. Everything I have read points in the Panny's favor.

Ok, except one thing. The panny cannot be forced to output at 480i if you insist on using outboard VP on your DVD's played thru your BD player. :rolleyes:

Would I achieve LPCM through the analog outputs, or can I do it through optical?
m-ch analogs.
 
Jack Hammer

Jack Hammer

Audioholic Field Marshall
I wonder if your problem is similar to the problem I recently had with my PS3. It suddenly began giving invalid disc errors. I ran a lens cleaner through it with minimal, if any, results. Then read online about dust buildup on the lens and people having to disassemble the unit to be able to clean the laser eye. In my case I am still under warranty, so Sony has my player and is fixing it, I didn't get chance to see if that would have fixed it.

My mentality is, if it can happen with one type of player, maybe it can happen with another. Maybe you can try taking it apart and cleaning it, if it's not working you really don't have much to lose. Anybody else got an opinion on this?

Jack
 
CaliHwyPatrol

CaliHwyPatrol

Audioholic Chief
I blew compressed air in there. There is no way dust build up could be that caked on there to withstand that.

I also don't really believe that it's dust because sometimes it will play just fine, like there is no problem at all.

The Panasonic fans are probably going to scoff at me, but I'm probably going to get the Sony. I can't get by the fact that Sony has been good to me and I've never owned Panasonic. In all honesty, the differences between the players seem negligible, so I think I would feel better in the long run getting the brand I've had good experiences with.
 
mperfct

mperfct

Audioholic Samurai
I blew compressed air in there. There is no way dust build up could be that caked on there to withstand that.

I also don't really believe that it's dust because sometimes it will play just fine, like there is no problem at all.

The Panasonic fans are probably going to scoff at me, but I'm probably going to get the Sony. I can't get by the fact that Sony has been good to me and I've never owned Panasonic. In all honesty, the differences between the players seem negligible, so I think I would feel better in the long run getting the brand I've had good experiences with.
I'm with you too, I don't think any player should have dust problems unless they are running in very dusty environments. I don't think many people drop $300+ for BRP to play in construction zones.

I wouldn't sweat the Sony decision either. I've had more than my share of Sony electronics over the years and they've been rock solid. Well, except that POS point-and-shoot camera.
 
J

jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
The Panasonic fans are probably going to scoff at me, but I'm probably going to get the Sony. I can't get by the fact that Sony has been good to me and I've never owned Panasonic. In all honesty, the differences between the players seem negligible, so I think I would feel better in the long run getting the brand I've had good experiences with.
No scoffing. Do as you please.

The reason why I recommend Pana is for the superior PQ. Its visible subjectively, and its been discussed a whole lot, whether measurably, in controlled test shoot-outs, consumer shoot-outs, etc.

IOW, the differences are not negligible. Not to me at least. They might be negligible on a smaller display. To me the Sony seems to look like it has more "noise".

But Sony has treated you well, so why not. I do think the Sony looks better cosmetically; I've hooked up and checked out the bd30, bd35, sony350.

Some others also prefer the Sony for ergonomics. Ive played with all three above, and I'm not seeing this, but I thought I should throw that out there.

Here is one pro reviewer's thoughts, just posted in the aforementioned thread yesterday.



"I've seen demos of pretty complex high definition material on the BD35 vs. the BDP-S350 and the BD35 pretty handily beats the BDP-S350 for Blu-ray performance when it comes down to fine color detail. If the 550 is using the same processor as the S350 then it will rate similarly to the 350.

The Panasonic player is accurate with color output (they both are), where it beats the Sony is in color detail. It interpolates color values for pixels which were not on the original disc (lost due to the Blu-ray mastering/compression process) effectively restoring the 4:2:0 color information stored on the Blu-ray disc to 4:4:4 output with color detail for each pixel in the 1920x1080 array. This becomes evident on really large screens where you can see strong, clean borders between colors on the Panasonic where the Sony (at least the S350) loses a bit of sharpness and definition at these edges.

I have not tested/measured the BDP-S550 but I have evaluated the BD55 in depth and done some preliminary testing on a BD35 and I can say they are both impressive pieces of hardware, in terms of performance. The Panasonic player's standard def upconversion is solid but not best of breed. But the same could be said about the Sony.

At this level of performance, on most common screen sizes (even at 50 inches from 8 feet away), you would be hard-pressed to tell the difference on Blu-ray material, even with the advantages of the new UniPhier chip in the Panasonic. So, to a certain extent, you can't go wrong with either, just pick based on features and ergonomics.

As BIslander said, the BD55 audio settings are convenient in that you can set it to PCM or analog out (depending on your receiver's requirements), leave secondary audio ON and still enjoy the lossless codecs. This affects not only PiP commentary tracks (BonusView), but also menu clicking sounds, which frequently cannot be defeated in the disc menu and will force a player that bitstreams to revert to the lossy codec. Sure, you can always go in and out of the menus adjusting the secondary audio or switching from "direct" to "mix" mode but getting in and out of these menus interrupts playback and brings you right back to the beginning of a disc (at least if the disc has BD-Java), and who wants to take a 2 to 3 minute break, just to adjust your audio settings?

So, keep your eyes peeled for deals this holiday shopping season and go with whichever one best fits your needs from an ergonomics perspective. Either player is a huge step up in performance over regular DVD.

-CB"
 
CaliHwyPatrol

CaliHwyPatrol

Audioholic Chief
That reaffirms my decision for Sony actually. Having only (only lol) a 50" display, the reviewer said, "you would be hard-pressed to tell the difference on Blu-ray material..."

I thought my Samsung had excellent PQ, and it apparently rates the worst of them, so getting either of these won't disappoint.

Thanks for the review and the input. I'm going to have a look at both of them, I'll let you guys know what I end up getting.
 
CaliHwyPatrol

CaliHwyPatrol

Audioholic Chief
Well, I got the Sony (big surprise). It was also not entirely by choice since the Panasonic didn't ship to the store so they are backordered. I'm 99% sure I would have taken the Sony anyway. There were endless piles of S350s around, and just 1 S550. The website even had it marked out of stock, but they just happened to have that one left. Phew!

I'm hooking it up now, I'll report in if it seems any different than my Samsung.
 
CaliHwyPatrol

CaliHwyPatrol

Audioholic Chief
Ok, I LOVE this player! It's like watching all of my Blu Rays for the first time again. I've watched at least 1 movie every day since I bought it.

Plus, how could you not love a player that comes with a remote that lights up blue! :D

 
Jack Hammer

Jack Hammer

Audioholic Field Marshall
Glad to hear you're happy with your purchase. I know how irritating it is when your stuff doesn't work and how much nicer it is when you get something that not just works but works better. BTW, that remote is nice.

Jack
 
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