ok, so I went to ultimate electronics tonight, this time armed with my own cd's of music that I listen to. I brought Linkin Park, Lucky Boys Confusion, Kid Rock, Dave Mathews, Third Eye Blind, Sublime, ACDC, and 3 Doors Down. I wanted to listen to some more speakers before making a decision. I have heard Kef speakers compared to Paradigm so I wanted to listen to some rock music with them. Didn't really do it for me, and yes I know these arent Paradigms so I can't make a direct comparison. the Definitive Technology towers didnt impress me at all. The infinty speakers were ok, but didnt really "rock out" like I want. this brought me to the Klipsch reference series. The more I listen to klipsch the more I like the sound and tonight when I listened to my music on it I was blown away. I listened to about 4 different sets of towers and the ones the dominated all of them was ironically not the biggest one, but the next step down. The RF-25 towers sounded incredible with rock music, great bass and the highs sounded terrific. They kind of took me by surprise b/c these towers werent in the room with the expensive receivers, they were in the room with the entry level receivers. So i was listening to these with a Yammy that was putting out only 85 watts per channel and it rocked. I couldn't imagine playing these on something that had more power. What shocked me the most was that to my ears the RF-25's with the dual 6.5's sounded alot better than the RF-35 with dual 8's. The bass was tighter and the highs were extremely clear. Now I really want to hear the Bic Acoustech especially if they are supposed to actually sound better.