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McBrace

Audiophyte
Ok all here is the big question. Advice on Panasonic 55 or PS3? I like the analog outs but the PS3 plays the BD-RE and BD-R media. Does the PS3 have as good of a picture? ( Posted this question deep in a thread thought I would start a new one just for this topic) I am new to the blu ray / HD dvd kick. Just looking for some feed back.
Thanks all!

( oh , I have a HK DPR 1005 reciever so no HDMI)
 
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FirstReflection

AV Rant Co-Host
This is just one man's opinion, but I would only recommend a stand-alone player if you really need the analogue audio outputs. So basically, it depends on what your sound system is capable of handling.

If you have an older receiver that does not have HDMI inputs, then it would be worth while to go with the Panasonic DMP-BD55 Blu-ray player. I must stress here though, even if your receiver does have HDMI inputs, they MUST be capable of accepting a 5.1 and/or 7.1 PCM audio signal. There are some lower cost and/or older receivers that have HDMI inputs, but those HDMI inputs cannot accept 5.1/7.1 PCM audio. Being able to accept 5.1/7.1 PCM audio is critical, so double and triple check, just to make sure ;)

So, to summarize:

1) If you have a receiver that has HDMI inputs that CAN accept 5.1/7.1 PCM - then I would strongly recommend the PS3 as your Blu-ray player. The PS3 is MUCH faster when it comes to loading discs, navigating menus and accessing any BD-Live (internet) content. The PS3 also provides reference quality Blu-ray video output. There is zero concern about its video quality :) It's also a pretty darn good DVD upscaling player too. Not the tip top of the world, but certainly no slouch and better than many of the inexpensive (or even many of the expensive) upconverting DVD players out there. The PS3 gets frequent updates and it is, by far, the most commonly tested player for compatibility issues. Where other players sometimes have compatibility issues with certain Blu-ray discs (sometimes, it's new DRM, sometimes it's BD-Java, sometimes it's BD-Live - but basically, most stand alone players seem to run into compatibility issues with a few rare discs from time to time, while the PS3 almost always works because the studios test extensively to make sure their discs will play on the PS3). The PS3 also fully decodes ALL of the new HD Audio formats. It outputs these formats in "raw" 5.1 or 7.1 PCM via HDMI, which is why it is vital that your receiver be able to accept 5.1/7.1 PCM via HDMI.

2) If your receiver cannot accept 5.1/7.1 PCM via HDMI (either because it has no HDMI inputs, or because the HDMI inputs that it does have are not capable of handling 5.1/7.1 PCM), then the DMP-BD55 becomes the best choice.

Of the stand-alone players, the DMP-BD55 is likely the head of the pack. It certainly does not load BD-Java titles nearly as quickly as the PS3, but so long as you're willing to wait for that initial load, the rest of the experience is pretty much equal to the PS3. BD-Live still navigates a bit slower, but overall, it isn't too bad. Video quality is right on par with the PS3 and all audio is handled by the DMP-BD55, so you're all set for everything that Blu-ray can deliver :)
 
yettitheman

yettitheman

Audioholic General
PS3. Why?

Well, I know that Audioholics has started using the PS3 as their baseline player so to speak. (One of you admins chime in if I'm wrong). So, to them it means something as far as players go.

Versatility is another good point with the PS3. The old 60 GB version could even play SA-CD. And when you are done watching movies, you can listen to music, surf the web, ect..

The BIGGEST thing that I think it has going for it, is that it is the only player out right now that can play EVERY BD without failure. I've been reading horror stories about standalone units not being able to play certain movies, but not PS3 yet. Not to mention the PS3 has rather frequent system/firmware updates which help increase the functionality of the player, as well as (hopefully) improve sound and picture quality.

So, even though the P55 may have better PQ (which I have no idea if it does or not), I would forgo the trouble of dealing with a standalone BD player and get a PS3 just for the fact that I know it can play every disc I put in there.
 
mike c

mike c

Audioholic Warlord
when the day comes that they have a dedicated player as trouble free as the PS3 and costs as much or less. that will be the day i get a dedicated player :D i'm missing the DTS-HD logo on my receiver :D
 
Davemcc

Davemcc

Audioholic Spartan
I have been using the PS3 for a while but I just picked up a standalone player because I got tired of listening to the fan on the PS3. Well, two actually. I currently have a BD35 and an S550. If you receiver is PCM or bitstream capable, you won't need the analog outputs on the BD55, so you can save a few bucks by getting the BD35. The wait time on the players is not as bad as everybody makes it out to be but it is longer than the PS3.
 
Davemcc

Davemcc

Audioholic Spartan
http://www.cepro.com/article/blu_ray_or_digital_downloads_integrators_weigh_in/K1

IMO by the time bluray gets affordable, media solutions will have begun another change:)
Good page. Interesting comments.

I do find that BD is becoming more affordable. I just bought a couple BD movies for $20ea that I already have on DVD. IIRC, DVD's were $20 not that long ago, at least up here. BD players are already starting to compete in price with some of the higher end HDD or upscaling DVD players. I think BD stands a chance, at least I hope so now that I'm vested in it.;)
 
Cpt.America

Cpt.America

Full Audioholic
The old 60 GB version could even play SA-CD. .
wait wait wait.. are you sure about that? I have the good ol 60GB version, which can play ps2 and ps1 games..... didnt know it could play SACDs.
 

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