Pandora being taken over by Sirius

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Seriously, I have no life.
Well we'll see if they change the service....just not a good time to be a Pandora officer it seems.
Unless part of the package includes a healthy buyout.

I didn't like the changes surrounding the Sirius/XM deal- first, my favorite channels were dropped and after the mating process was done, the sound quality took a huge dump. I don't have high hopes for Pandora.

I hope I'm wrong.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Unless part of the package includes a healthy buyout.

I didn't like the changes surrounding the Sirius/XM deal- first, my favorite channels were dropped and after the mating process was done, the sound quality took a huge dump. I don't have high hopes for Pandora.

I hope I'm wrong.
Yeah they probably got some sort of golden parachutes. Altho if stock based, down 18% :)
 
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Hobbit

Audioholic Chief
Hmmm, not sure what to think. Two mediocre companies combining? I haven't listened to Sirius since it expired on my car. I actually thought it was pretty bad. It didn't take long before I was tired of their set list. It was quite weak. Let me rephrase that, it sucked. Pandora is somewhat better, but just ehh at best. However, I still turn it on on occasion. It's OK when you don't play it much.

I'm less concerned about this than I am about how the streaming stations that actually had more than fluff when it came to almost any music genre are disappearing. I suppose it was inevitable. That's not where the money is at.
 
Good4it

Good4it

Audioholic Chief
Amazon Unlimited is my go to stream but Pandora $5 one SOMETIME.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Hmmm, not sure what to think. Two mediocre companies combining? I haven't listened to Sirius since it expired on my car. I actually thought it was pretty bad. It didn't take long before I was tired of their set list. It was quite weak. Let me rephrase that, it sucked. Pandora is somewhat better, but just ehh at best. However, I still turn it on on occasion. It's OK when you don't play it much.

I'm less concerned about this than I am about how the streaming stations that actually had more than fluff when it came to almost any music genre are disappearing. I suppose it was inevitable. That's not where the money is at.
Pandora has a huge selection, how many stations did you setup? I use all 100 and get quite a variety, I have run across quite a bit of new-to-me music this way....never tried Sirius myself, but have heard quality complaints primarily.
 
highfigh

highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
Hmmm, not sure what to think. Two mediocre companies combining? I haven't listened to Sirius since it expired on my car. I actually thought it was pretty bad. It didn't take long before I was tired of their set list. It was quite weak. Let me rephrase that, it sucked. Pandora is somewhat better, but just ehh at best. However, I still turn it on on occasion. It's OK when you don't play it much.

I'm less concerned about this than I am about how the streaming stations that actually had more than fluff when it came to almost any music genre are disappearing. I suppose it was inevitable. That's not where the money is at.
The set lists suck if you only search by genre and never give thumbs up or down. If you search by artist and use the thumbs up/down, it will play a much wider range of music based, in part, by style but also who played with whom.
 
Mikado463

Mikado463

Audioholic Spartan
Sirius I agree can get boring at times but I spend a fair amount of time on the road and have my half dozen or so 'go to' stations that I do like so I rarely listen to CD's. Pandora has been utilized with my JBL bluetooth speaker for listening by the pool or as a take along while on vacation.

I guess we shall wait and see ......
 
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Hobbit

Audioholic Chief
Pandora has a huge selection, how many stations did you setup? I use all 100 and get quite a variety, I have run across quite a bit of new-to-me music this way....never tried Sirius myself, but have heard quality complaints primarily.
Exactly what I do.It at l least gets variety. Good for a party. But if I want to just listen to a particular type of Jazz, they suck. I can't put it any other way. They play the artists that anyone vaguely familiar with the genre can name... over and over w/o even going deep into their music!

Maybe it's what I like to listen to? I often end up with who is this artist when I enter a name. Or, at one time this artist was associated with such and such and the station morphs to something I didn't want. Even if that's what they're not known for. I've ended up deleting too many stations after I tried giving thumbs up or thumbs down because it ends up somewhere besides what I wanted

I will give that Pandora isn't as bad for mainstream music. Still, much better options out there, just takes time to find them.
 
KEW

KEW

Audioholic Overlord
Exactly what I do.It at l least gets variety. Good for a party. But if I want to just listen to a particular type of Jazz, they suck. I can't put it any other way. They play the artists that anyone vaguely familiar with the genre can name... over and over w/o even going deep into their music!

Maybe it's what I like to listen to? I often end up with who is this artist when I enter a name. Or, at one time this artist was associated with such and such and the station morphs to something I didn't want. Even if that's what they're not known for. I've ended up deleting too many stations after I tried giving thumbs up or thumbs down because it ends up somewhere besides what I wanted

I will give that Pandora isn't as bad for mainstream music. Still, much better options out there, just takes time to find them.
Interesting!
I have had a few rare occasions where I could not find the artist I was looking for, but for the most part I've been very happy with the music I get after having spent two years developing my stations. I usually run it on what I call a global shuffle where I'm shuffling between all stations and since I have given thumbs down to anything that pops up that don't like I end up with a very wide array of music I like. I also have topped out the hundred station limit.
 
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snakeeyes

Audioholic Ninja
Didn’t realize there was a 100 station limit. I’ve got around 60. :)
 
Good4it

Good4it

Audioholic Chief
Interesting!
I have had a few rare occasions where I could not find the artist I was looking for, but for the most part I've been very happy with the music I get after having spent two years developing my stations. I usually run it on what I call a global shuffle where I'm shuffling between all stations and since I have given thumbs down to anything that pops up that don't like I end up with a very wide array of music I like. I also have topped out the hundred station limit.
Likewise.
 
highfigh

highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
Exactly what I do.It at l least gets variety. Good for a party. But if I want to just listen to a particular type of Jazz, they suck. I can't put it any other way. They play the artists that anyone vaguely familiar with the genre can name... over and over w/o even going deep into their music!

Maybe it's what I like to listen to? I often end up with who is this artist when I enter a name. Or, at one time this artist was associated with such and such and the station morphs to something I didn't want. Even if that's what they're not known for. I've ended up deleting too many stations after I tried giving thumbs up or thumbs down because it ends up somewhere besides what I wanted

I will give that Pandora isn't as bad for mainstream music. Still, much better options out there, just takes time to find them.
I used Tidal for the trial period and decided that I didn't like the way I needed to search and it wasn't worth the cost, to me, but I did hear music that didn't seem to be available on Pandora- I now hear a lot of those tunes. Maybe it was a licensing issue.

I used to listen to the Beyond Jazz channel on XM but they removed it before the merge. That was the one channel I really liked, although they also played some good Prog Rock. I called to cancel and, unknown to me, continued to bill me at almost $30/month. The fact that my plan's price had risen so much was a major factor in my cancellation, but they said they wouldn't give me a refund. At this point, I wouldn't pee on them if they were on fire.

I came to the conclusion a long time ago that most of the music I like doesn't fall under the classification of 'popular', but that doesn't bother me. When I worked in a stereo store, I would bring music from home to demo equipment and constantly heard "This is good- who is it?". When I told them, they mostly asked "Who?" and I would say "Exactly". Eventually, we gained a reputation for "being the place to go" for a certain segment of the population- the classical people went to a couple of dealers, hard core/metalheads went to another and we were more eclectic. That had an interesting consequence- among our regular customers were a member of Talking Heads, members of Violent Femmes, BoDeans, a touring member of Genesis/Phil Collins, and many musicians who played locally, including a few professors/faculty at the local music schools, partially because we were close to their locations.
 
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lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Exactly what I do.It at l least gets variety. Good for a party. But if I want to just listen to a particular type of Jazz, they suck. I can't put it any other way. They play the artists that anyone vaguely familiar with the genre can name... over and over w/o even going deep into their music!

Maybe it's what I like to listen to? I often end up with who is this artist when I enter a name. Or, at one time this artist was associated with such and such and the station morphs to something I didn't want. Even if that's what they're not known for. I've ended up deleting too many stations after I tried giving thumbs up or thumbs down because it ends up somewhere besides what I wanted

I will give that Pandora isn't as bad for mainstream music. Still, much better options out there, just takes time to find them.
So what service does play the particular type of jazz you're interested in and comes up with sufficiently obscure artists to satisfy your existing knowledge? Does the genre even have that sort of depth of electronically available music? I don't think that's the purpose of Pandora in any case, especially the mind-reading part.
 
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Hobbit

Audioholic Chief
So what service does play the particular type of jazz you're interested in and comes up with sufficiently obscure artists to satisfy your existing knowledge? Does the genre even have that sort of depth of electronically available music? I don't think that's the purpose of Pandora in any case, especially the mind-reading part.
Sound like your trying to put me down because my music taste! IMO, pandora serves more the mainstream. It would probably hurt their margins to boost their playlists for not as popular genre's. Glad you like what they play.

Surprisingly yes, there is that depth out there. Plenty of it too. Including a lot of new music. For Jazz my quick gotos are Jazz Radio and Fusion 101. After that it's a mix of internet stations. Some of the European jazz stations are great. They'll even throw in an old school mainstream artists on occasion.

For prog rock and some good instrumental rock I like Delicious Agony. They will throw in a little jazz and some mainstream rock songs too. Which could be kind of odd at time,,,,, Journey following Carstensen.

You don't get to skip and or hit magic buttons that may or may not always work, but you do get variety. It does take some time and listening to find stations you like. IMO, worth it once you do.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Sound like your trying to put me down because my music taste! IMO, pandora serves more the mainstream. It would probably hurt their margins to boost their playlists for not as popular genre's. Glad you like what they play.

Surprisingly yes, there is that depth out there. Plenty of it too. Including a lot of new music. For Jazz my quick gotos are Jazz Radio and Fusion 101. After that it's a mix of internet stations. Some of the European jazz stations are great. They'll even throw in an old school mainstream artists on occasion.

For prog rock and some good instrumental rock I like Delicious Agony. They will throw in a little jazz and some mainstream rock songs too. Which could be kind of odd at time,,,,, Journey following Carstensen.

You don't get to skip and or hit magic buttons that may or may not always work, but you do get variety. It does take some time and listening to find stations you like. IMO, worth it once you do.
No, just saying that your music tastes perhaps are on the obscure side for what Pandora is geared for (or "mainstream" as you seem to feel you're above). Maybe you should share with Pandora to help expand the music genome project some more. I was asking about similar services available in similar ways, not internet radio stations in any cases. Maybe you just needed to change the way you used Pandora otoh.
 
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