Outlaw or Yammy?

[vacter73]

Hi, i'm kinda new, so this may be a newbie question. I'm thinking of upgrading my HT and was wondering how the Outlaw 1050 was compared to what I currently have, The Yamaha HTR-5760? I know the Outlaw is a little older but I'm curious if it is still a step up as far as build quality, Dolby and Dts proccessing, overall sound quality. I haven't been able to find a use or been able to take advantage of the yammys bells and whistles. 5.1 processing is all i'm going to be doing for a while. Also, what's your opinion on the Outlaw LFM-1? It looks awesome. I know SVS and Hsu make steller products also.

My current setup:
Yamaha HTR-5760
Sony DVD
Polk RTI-6 fronts
Polk CSI-3 center
Klipsch 8 inch sub (replacing soon)
Mirage M90's rear surround

 

[jaxvon]

I can't comment on the receiver, but as far as subs go, the Outlaw LFM-1 was designed by Dr. Hsu of Hsu Subwoofers. It's very similar in design to the STF-3.

 

[droeses58]

I currently have the outlaw 1070, [same thing as 1050 spec. wise]. Let me start by saying the sound quality is great, however it's not as user friendly for home theater as my h/k. It also does'nt have all those useless bells and whistles, [the outlaw that is] It is a very nice reciever especially if you listen to a lot of music, on the other hand for home theater I prefer my h/k.

Edit: I see you want to know about build quality, the Outlaw IMO is second to none. I took the cover off of mine and compared it to my Pioneer and H/K and the power supply alone let me know this is a serious reciever. Also it's an American company and from what I have read their service is also second to none.

 

[mtrycrafts]

Hi, i'm kinda new, so this may be a newbie question. I'm thinking of upgrading my HT and was wondering how the Outlaw 1050 was compared to what I currently have, The Yamaha HTR-5760? I know the Outlaw is a little older but I'm curious if it is still a step up as far as build quality, Dolby and Dts proccessing, overall sound quality. I haven't been able to find a use or been able to take advantage of the yammys bells and whistles. 5.1 processing is all i'm going to be doing for a while. Also, what's your opinion on the Outlaw LFM-1? It looks awesome. I know SVS and Hsu make steller products also.

Is your Yammi lacking something that you have a need for, such as more inputs, different processing power, etc? If not, I seriously doubt you would gain anything and you would have to lay out some $$$ so you may be loosing something

 

[vacter73]

The 5760 sounds good (not great). I was just wondering if the 1050 had more depth or imaging to the sound. I realize alot of this also has to do with the quality of your speakers. I by no means have anything large or high end but, I feel they are good speakers. I haven't really had too much problem with the brightness produced with the yamaha and the polks.

 

[3db]

the 1070 replaced the 1050

The 5760 sounds good (not great). I was just wondering if the 1050 had more depth or imaging to the sound. I realize alot of this also has to do with the quality of your speakers. I by no means have anything large or high end but, I feel they are good speakers. I haven't really had too much problem with the brightness produced with the yamaha and the polks.

I've read a few reviews on the 1070 praising it for its musicality and its power to deliver. It does lack alot of features but its amp section is more robust than that of the 5760.

 

[vacter73]

Thanks for your reply. The 1070 does look great! However, I was really wondering about the older 1050 (easier on the pocket book off Ebay/Audiogon). Does anyone have any real world experience with the 1050? Thanks to everyone who have already replied.

 

[mtrycrafts]

The 5760 sounds good (not great). I was just wondering if the 1050 had more depth or imaging to the sound. .

If this is the issue, you need to look elsewhere for the solution: speakers, room acoustics, and the software quality. An amp will not fix your perceived issues.

 

[j_garcia]

If this is the issue, you need to look elsewhere for the solution: speakers, room acoustics, and the software quality. An amp will not fix your perceived issues.

It's not the amp section alone that makes the difference in a particular piece of equipment; EVERYTHING that goes into a particular deisgn does.

 

[mulester7]

.....your theater....you're sitting at a point, that is in, the direct-cone-of-dispersion, of fronts, centers, and surrounds....room conditions come into play when the sounds leave that initial cone and start bouncing....too much is made out of room conditions that don't have sound proofing nailed solid like in a studio....why wouldn't you want some reflective surface to make the listening-chamber brighten, and take you to the happening you're listening to?....gone for the evening....friendship calleth....

 

[vacter73]

Okay, I can understand where room accoustics would also be a factor. But, aside from nailing up studio wall insulation in our livingroom, what can anyone tell me about the outlaw 1050? I was just curious if anyone here actually owned one and has any real listening experience with it? I have read a few favorable reviews for it. I would like to here what you real pro power users think.

 

[Doug917]

You might have better luck here on Outlaw's forum:

http://ubb.outlawaudio.com/cgi-local/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi

Good luck!

 

[vacter73]

Thanks....

 

[3db]

Okay, I can understand where room accoustics would also be a factor. But, aside from nailing up studio wall insulation in our livingroom, what can anyone tell me about the outlaw 1050? I was just curious if anyone here actually owned one and has any real listening experience with it? I have read a few favorable reviews for it. I would like to here what you real pro power users think.

here ya go; 133 reviews from audioreview.com ;

http://audioreview.com/mfr/outlaw-audio/a-v-receivers/PRD_124358_2718crx.aspx

 

[j_garcia]

Have you ever read any of the reviews on audioreview? In a large number of cases they are some of the worst reviews, by people who clearly know very little about what they're talking about. Even when they are positive, they usually don't include any useful info or comparisons to anything else, so you have to take them with a grain of salt (as with anyone's opinion).

 

[vacter73]

I'll agree with that about Audioreviews. I much prefer the opinions of the people here. Thank you for your responses. I think i'm going to go ahead and try the 1050. If and when it shows up, maybe I can be the first person here to do a comparison between a low-end yamaha(htr-5760) and the outlaw 1050!

 

[mtrycrafts]

It's not the amp section alone that makes the difference in a particular piece of equipment; EVERYTHING that goes into a particular deisgn does.

I would encourage you to order this paper from AES and see what the authors are saying:

David Rich and Peter Aczel, 'Topological Analysis of Consumer Audio Electronics: Another Approach to Show that Modern Audio Electronics are Acoustically Transparent,' 99 AES Convention, 1995, Print #4053.

 

[mulester7]

I would encourage you to order this paper from AES and see what the authors are saying:

David Rich and Peter Aczel, 'Topological Analysis of Consumer Audio Electronics: Another Approach to Show that Modern Audio Electronics are Acoustically Transparent,' 99 AES Convention, 1995, Print #4053.

.....so you're saying these two guys wrote an article that said ALL modern surround receivers will give the same sonic signature and realism transparency?....climb out that hole, Mtry....go listen to some stuff....ya' need them ears blowed out......