Outlaw 1070 Receiver; best receiver for under 1000.

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According to Home Theater magazine, its the best sub 1000 receiver out there scoring on their scale, a 98 out of a 100. They were amazed with its construction and the sound it produced. Moveover NAD, a new receiver has been crowned
 
jeffsg4mac

jeffsg4mac

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I am sure it is quality stuff but pretty bare bones for the money. Does not really hold a candle to a Denon or Yamaha for processing. A 3806/3005 or RXV-2600/2500 would be much better choices for the money. Also, looks like they are just playing numbers game. If Denon or Yamaha called theirs a 65 watt receiver, I bet it would spec out just as well or better. They all weigh right at 40lbs. Yeah it's a little cheaper, but lot less capable.
 
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Features doesn't necessarily make a reciever sound better?

jeffsg4mac said:
I am sure it is quality stuff but pretty bare bones for the money. Does not really hold a candle to a Denon or Yamaha for processing. A 3806/3005 or RXV-2600/2500 would be much better choices for the money. Also, looks like they are just playing numbers game. If Denon or Yamaha called theirs a 65 watt receiver, I bet it would spec out just as well or better. They all weigh right at 40lbs. Yeah it's a little cheaper, but lot less capable.

Less capabale how? In sonics? I don't think so
 
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interesting

jeffsg4mac said:
Less capable in many ways. Good lord too many to mention, just read for yourself. For example Denon's details 3806 http://usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/623.asp

Yeah the Denon is a few hundred more but one heck of lot more receiver too.
be interested how they stack up from a listening persepctive. Paper tells very little of the story if you know what I mean
 
jeffsg4mac

jeffsg4mac

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3db said:
be interested how they stack up from a listening perspective. Paper tells very little of the story if you know what I mean
Well I got rid of a Marantz pre/pro and an Adcom 5 channel amp because a Denon 2803 sounded better, had more power and more features. I have owned both Denon and Yamaha and many separates in the past. Both Denon's and Yamaha's top receivers are of very high quality in the sound department. Best bang for buck at this point. Not saying the Outlaw is junk, it just looks a little lacking. I think one could do better for the same money or a little more. I have heard many separates that did not sound any better than the RXV 2600 I now have. I have heard some that did, but I can't afford them. Unless your are going to really get into a high quality Pre/Pro amp setup, the current crop of HT receivers is the way to go. You have to spend a lot more money and sometimes you still get less. A good example of that is Denons Flagship the 5805, a separates Killer.
 
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I guess we look at things differently

I've heard the RXV2500 and I don't think the pre/amp section has changed with respect to the 2600. And your right. Its a solid sounding receiver. And then I heard NAD; a T753 hooked uo to the same speakers as the Yam2500 and too me, the NAD sounded better. It sounded like it had just a bit better control on the bass and the seperation and nucances came out a little more pronounced. But compared to the Yammy, the NAD is a stripper in features. Would I choose the NAD over the Yammy if I had the money? In a heartbeat. Would I feel like I was losing something since I can only afford the Yammy? Nope. Its still a great sounding beast.

What I'm getting at is this, I value sound over features if I my budget could afford my taste. Not saying you don't . But to me the features just doesn't make that impact to me. If I can get better sound with less features, than I'm perfectly happy.
 
edwelly

edwelly

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I would lean more towards 3bs's idea of a receiver - I cannot comment on any of the brands listed as I haven't owned any. I look for a few things and that is it - Dolby, DTS, bass management - those sorts of things. I do not use any of the DSP stuff on my current AVR.
 
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