Out of Control Law Enforcement

jinjuku

jinjuku

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Have any you you been paying attention to Brett Darrow and his on camera capture of a raving LEO (Law Enforcement Officer)?


Here is a link to a stop in a 24 hour commuter lot


Here is a link to a DWI checkpoint. I thank god they are illegal in Michigan.

Hats off to this young man. Takes some serious brass to take on law enforcement.

He has one other video where he is pulled over and ticketed for an 'illegal u-turn'. He says the video evidence will show that the LEO is lying.
 
sholling

sholling

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Have any you you been paying attention to Brett Darrow and his on camera capture of a raving LEO (Law Enforcement Officer)?
Hysterical wasn't it? The LEO was just out of his mind. Of course even though the police chief suspended the officer he found a way to try and blame the victim. Having a camera in place means that you must be looking for trouble. :rolleyes: I thought it was pretty darn smart.

The sad thing is that now that this LEO has been caught acting like a fool his buddies will hound the kid out of town. He will not be able to drive a block without a ticket, or cross a street, or much of anything else. It will be life under a microscope.
 
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Mort Corey

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I think a lot of this can betraced back to when "peace officers" became "law enforcement officers".......the words mean different things.

Mort
 
jinjuku

jinjuku

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You'll love this tidbit. The officer in this latest video can't come up with the video footage from his cruiser. Oh the humanity of it all. There isn't an emoticon invented yet that can display what I am feeling right now.
 
stratman

stratman

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Something similar happened to me, a bad cop can ruin your life. It ended with me getting a lawyer and even the judge and prosecutor said the cop was a pin-head. Six months later the same cop riding his bike down US1 was t-boned by a blue hair on an intersection, he ended up months in the hospital recuperating. He use to pull overtime working in a bank where a friend of mine worked as a teller, that's how I got the scoop. The guy was generally disliked by everyone and I have no clue what's become of him. Good riddance. BTW, I have cop friends that are the nicest most professional persons you can meet.
 
jinjuku

jinjuku

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So do I. My friend and roomate of 4 years is a LEO in Orange City Ohio. I couldn't see him giving someone a hard time. A guy I grew up with though is a cop. He was a total ******* growing up and I am sure is misery to any that he pulls over. I hope he gets his *** kicked on a regular basis.
 
ParadigmDawg

ParadigmDawg

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I have mixed feelings on this; in general I think cops are arrogant a-holes. I spend a lot of time with cops as my best friend is the Sergeant of the police department in my town. I always end up at parties that are a mixture of “normal” people and cops. 99% of the time I run into issues with at least one cop per party. Just 3 weeks ago I was at my cop friend’s house for his b-day party I reached into his china cabinet to get a nice glass for my scotch as I always require a nice glass and all my friends know this. Well some Jake-leg told me to put the glass back and I simply told him it was ok if I used the glass, he once again said “put the glass back” and I calmly said “it’s ok”. He then went on to tell me that “you don’t know who I am, I am on the SWAT team…blah…blah…blah” This went on until I got mad and finally I said; ‘I could care less who you are or what you do, right now you are just some drunk guy at a party just like I am so you can F-OFF”. Well, he walked off and I followed and was about to hammer is rear-end and then all the sudden there was about 10 drunk cops all around me. I looked around and there were about 10 of my buddies headed over too. My cop friend came running over and chilled everybody out and then stated “hey Greg is my best friend and he can do whatever he wants in my house”. I feel certain that this cop will get a chance to pull me over one day and I hate to imagine how I will be treated at that time.

Now the mixed feeling come into play as I look at the situation of the guy pulled over at the DWI stop. He could have been polite and just said he was heading back from a friends and it would have been over but then again; I could’ve just put the glass back…
 
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jinjuku

jinjuku

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Now the mixed feeling come into play as I look at the situation of the guy pulled over at the DWI stop. He could have been polite and just said he was heading back from a friends and it would have been over but then again; I could’ve just put the glass back…
Your view point is duly noted and appreciated. As a citizen you shouldn't have to put up with it. If you want to cooperate and fly under the radar, well that is your business. But I believe if you don't stand up for yourself now, you can't expect others to when you need it. DWI checkpoints are illegal in Michigan because it has been statistically proven that they don't impact the # of DUI's out there. Rather they are used ensnare for other violations.

If police are running a DWI checkpoint, you can achieve the same results by asking how their night is going (very innocuous and doesn't invade your privacy) and whether or not they have been drinking or doing anything else that would impair their ability to operate a motor vehicle.

I personally don't agree with the SCOTUS decision that DWI stops are legal because Rehnquist decided that it's protection of civilians vs protection from unreasonable search and seizure. Statistical studies prove that DWI stops do nothing measurably to decrease DWI. That is why Michigan ignored and vacated the SCOTUS decision and went with the State Constitution in determining the validity of DWI. Pretty much a statement to SCOTUS: If you won't protect constitutionally granted rights of our citizens, we will.

Sorry you had a run in with a cop over a scotch glass. Dear God.
 
jinjuku

jinjuku

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he walked off and I followed and was about to hammer is rear-end
So, you were either going to sucker punch him, or give him some sweet broke-back mountain luvin'?:D
 
ParadigmDawg

ParadigmDawg

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I was going to show him a little UFC love since I am pretty well trained in Brazilian Ju Jitsu and Muay Thai striking.

So, you were either going to sucker punch him, or give him some sweet broke-back mountain luvin'?:D
 
hemiram

hemiram

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Hysterical wasn't it? The LEO was just out of his mind. Of course even though the police chief suspended the officer he found a way to try and blame the victim. Having a camera in place means that you must be looking for trouble. :rolleyes: I thought it was pretty darn smart.

The sad thing is that now that this LEO has been caught acting like a fool his buddies will hound the kid out of town. He will not be able to drive a block without a ticket, or cross a street, or much of anything else. It will be life under a microscope.
I had this happen to me. I was held at gunpoint, as a "suspect" in a strongarm robbery. I was taller, younger, and shoulder length hair, and had a full beard, the real guy was clean shaven. After grilling me in 30 degree weather for over an hour, one of the cops decided to search my car, finding nothing, but punching holes through both of my front seats with his nightstick. They ended up letting me go, but the one cop was very beliggerent, to put it mildly. He followed me home after they let me go.

About a year later, I bought a new truck, and he pulled me over, using the excuse that my truck fit the description of a guy wanted both by the bank, so they could repo it, and the cops for FTA on a DUI and driving on a suspended license. The was true, the guy in front of me when I got my plates had an identical truck and got a plate one number ahead of mine. He didn't recognize me at first, since the beard and hair was gone, but he did by the time he ran me. He made me late for work, then let me go. About 3 days later, I started getting pulled over, again and again. The cop who didn't like me, and 3 other cops began pulling me over constantly, to "check" if I was the guy driving a truck like mine.

After this went on for about a month, I had just about had enough, so I called a detective who had been the lead investigator a couple of years before when I was robbed, and told him what was happening. He laughed and told me those 4 guys were drinking buddies and to keep a little notebook of when, where, who, etc, stopped me, and when it was full, to call him back.

It didn't take long, and he said, "Those guys are in deep S**T, and after it was all done, I was paid $100 for my seat damage, and I basically had a "let him go" traffic ticket immunity for about 2 years. I got a new car and was pulled over by one of the 4 guys and as soon as he recognized me, he said," Just be careful sir!", and went right back into his car and took off. A year later, the first cop pulled me over for a legit reason, and asked me for my license, and then after checking, let me go. He was as polite as could be.

The police have to be really careful messing with this kid, as that camera could cause problems for any cop not doing it totally by the book.
 
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MDS

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I had this happen to me. I was held at gunpoint, as a "suspect" in a strongarm robbery.
That reminds me of something that happened to me when I was a teenager. I was driving my sister's car, which had a broken passenger side window and a cracked windshield (done by a jealous girl that previously dated the guy my sister was seeing).

It was in my neighborhood as I was proceeding towards home and was less than a mile away. They pulled me over (two cops) and immediately jumped out of the car with guns drawn. Apparently in their pee brains cracked windows automatically means the car is stolen and the driver ('thief') is armed and dangerous. I'm sure they were rookies but drawing your guns for a traffic stop in the middle of a quiet neighborhood is just ridiculous.

If that happened at my current age, I'd file every complaint possible with the county and state and get them removed from the force.
 
Sheep

Sheep

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I was going to show him a little UFC love since I am pretty well trained in Brazilian Ju Jitsu and Muay Thai striking.
That last part sounds delicious.

EDIT: I haven't had any traffic problems.... yet. It's bound to happen with my car being fairly loud, and a new "law" stating cops don't need to check the exhuast with an SPL meter. They can just use their judgment and issue tickets. This goes for car stereo's too.

The only time I ever experience cop trouble is a Vancouver Civic meets, but I have a camera with me. If it gets stupid, I get pictures :) At one the last meets, a cop kicked some guys S2000. It had a Carbon fiber body kit with a big CF lip, and he gave it a good kick. Everyone was like "Ohhhhhhhhhsssssssssss". 4 cop cars came to that meet.

SheepStar
 
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j_garcia

j_garcia

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I got pulled over for my exhaust within a few weeks of buying the car (already had the exhaust). I didn't see the cop and he came AFTER me, going around other cars to pull me over. He was a total a$$ and had me get out and pop the hood. ALL LEGAL, sorry nothing to see here...(CARB EO for my header, no intake due to jerks like him). The company's website says all their exhausts are 50 state legal. He said, all exhaust modifications are illegal in Ca., which is completely false. I fought it, went and had it tested at the state Referee and it passed the dB limit by 7dB! It was thrown out and now I have paperwork proving that it is completely legal.

My friend builds low riders and when he is driving them around, he almost always gets pulled over. He bought an Acura last year as his daily driver and he has not been pulled over since in this particular car.
 
stratman

stratman

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What does that tell you about California and Canada?
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

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I have pics from one of our meets. The cop was really cool and posed in our pics with it looking like he was arresting us with his lights on and all LOL. Not all cops are jerks.
 
agarwalro

agarwalro

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I am equivocal on this one.

First and foremost, the Officer was out of line. It was a non threatening situation and his reaction was completely unwarrented.

Second, the kid had a camera recording. IMHO, that will happen only if he was intending to pull some stunt (ultra high speed, drifting, etc.) or if he was just looking to get pulled over and harasses by the Law. Not only that, once the Officer went balistic, the kid seemed to bait him by prodding him with the response that was irking the Officer in the first place. Seems fairly obvious that the kid wanted a conflagration.
 
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mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

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Seems fairly obvious that the kid wanted a conflagration.

I missed his explanations on national Tv last nigh, he was on, but if this was the case, who should have been the smarter of the two?
 

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