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jmhc

Audioholic Intern
Greetings:

My A/V receiver has both HDMI 1.3 and 7.1 analog inputs, if I use Oppo BDP-83se, which of these connection will be better for movies and music audio quality, analog or HDMI?

Thank you.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
If you are using HDMI, you don't need the SE since the upgrade has no effect at all on HDMI capabilities as your receiver is doing the decoding (it even says this on the Oppo site).
 
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JAC

Enthusiast
Greetings:

My A/V receiver has both HDMI 1.3 and 7.1 analog inputs, if I use Oppo BDP-83se, which of these connection will be better for movies and music audio quality, analog or HDMI?

Thank you.
If you have the OPPO BDP83SE, then you would use both the STEREO and 7.1 analog out to your AVR's analog inputs for the best "audio" in both movies and music.

Use the HDMI for video only and if possible run it directly to your Monitor and not through the AVR unless you need the AVR's video switching capabilities.
 
son-yah-tive

son-yah-tive

Full Audioholic
If you are using HDMI, you don't need the SE since the upgrade has no effect at all on HDMI capabilities as your receiver is doing the decoding (it even says this on the Oppo site).
Listen to this one^^^^^^:)
 
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jmhc

Audioholic Intern
If you are using HDMI, you don't need the SE since the upgrade has no effect at all on HDMI capabilities as your receiver is doing the decoding (it even says this on the Oppo site).
I didn't say I was using HDMI, what I was looking was for opinions about which connection I should use for audio performance, analog or HDMI. In other words I wanted to know if analog outputs with the advance DACs offers better sound than HDMI.
 
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jmhc

Audioholic Intern
If you have the OPPO BDP83SE, then you would use both the STEREO and 7.1 analog out to your AVR's analog inputs for the best "audio" in both movies and music.

Use the HDMI for video only and if possible run it directly to your Monitor and not through the AVR unless you need the AVR's video switching capabilities.
Thank you pale, when I get my unit I'll use the analogs.
 
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PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
Greetings:

My A/V receiver has both HDMI 1.3 and 7.1 analog inputs, if I use Oppo BDP-83se, which of these connection will be better for movies and music audio quality, analog or HDMI?

Thank you.
If you have a higher end AVR such as the Denon AVR-5308, Yamaha RX-Z11, Pioneer SC-09 I would say HDMI may be better, but if you have a mid range AVR then the analogs from the SE would likely be better on paper whether the difference is audible to you or not.
 
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jmhc

Audioholic Intern
If you have a higher end AVR such as the Denon AVR-5308, Yamaha RX-Z11, Pioneer SC-09 I would say HDMI may be better, but if you have a mid range AVR then the analogs from the SE would likely be better on paper whether the difference is audible to you or not.
Well in my case I have Onkyo TX-SR805, so I guess analogs will be better then.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
The DACs in the SE will be better than most receivers out there unless you have a flagship model IMO like Peng said. The DACs in the SE are noticably improved from the standard version.
 
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jmhc

Audioholic Intern
The DACs in the SE will be better than most receivers out there unless you have a flagship model IMO like Peng said. The DACs in the SE are noticably improved from the standard version.
I'll be honest, I opened this thread because my receiver's specs says it has a SNR of 110db and when I read the Oppo's it says it hast > 117db, don't know if this says much about the audio performance.
 
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Ron Temple

Senior Audioholic
For movies, it depends on how much Audyssey processing adds to your experience. The mulitchannel inputs bypass all processing. You'd have to make that evaluation in home. For multichannel and 2 channel music, the SEs analog output sounds much richer to me than my 1007 via HDMI/DSD or Direct modes.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
The Crystal DACs in my 8300 are pretty good, and they cascade when listening in 2ch via digital, so I get 3 DACs per channel. The Oppo still sounds better to me via both 2ch and M/C analog.

The receiver likely has more options for bass management compared to the Oppo as well, so just another thing to consider.
 
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PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
Well in my case I have Onkyo TX-SR805, so I guess analogs will be better then.
Believe or not the 805 has decent Burr Brown DACs, most likely better than those in the 83 but the Sabre Premier in the 83SE has better specs for sure.
 
Pyrrho

Pyrrho

Audioholic Ninja
Greetings:

My A/V receiver has both HDMI 1.3 and 7.1 analog inputs, if I use Oppo BDP-83se, which of these connection will be better for movies and music audio quality, analog or HDMI?

Thank you.
Most likely, you would be better off getting the BDP-83 and using the HDMI connection only. There are several reasons for this, the main one being that the receiver most likely has better options for proper setup, which will have a real world impact on the sound you get.
 
Pyrrho

Pyrrho

Audioholic Ninja
I'll be honest, I opened this thread because my receiver's specs says it has a SNR of 110db and when I read the Oppo's it says it hast > 117db, don't know if this says much about the audio performance.
If your receiver has a signal to noise ratio of 110 dB, then you will have no better than a signal to noise ratio of 110 dB no matter how you hook it up.

110 dB signal to noise ratio is very good, and probably better than it needs to be. It is doubtful if you will ever hear a difference between two components if the only difference is a signal to noise ratio of 110 dB versus 117 dB, though one could artificially create situations in which one would hear a difference (which could be done by putting on a source of unusually low volume content, and turning up the volume control very high until you hear the noise floor of the one with 110 dB, but that will not occur in normal listening at all, and would not work in your particular case, since the receiver would have to be better than the source in this respect to be able to distinguish between the sources with the different signal to noise ratios).


This reminds me of something else, where some people imagine they are getting purer sound sending DSD (from SACDs) to their receiver rather than PCM, when their receiver converts it all to PCM anyway to do the processing for bass management, channel delays, etc.
 
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jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
Well in my case I have Onkyo TX-SR805, so I guess analogs will be better then.
I have an 805, and I'd stick with digital connection via HDMI. If there was a complaint about SQ from this generation (and this includes Integra prepros), it is the analog section for some, and there have been dedicated threads about adding 2 ch pre/pros with HT bypass in conjunction with the Integras. Not all thought the analog section suffered, but there were more than a few who did.

Via digital connections, no one has ever complained, and some of the highest end systems you can find on this or other boards use Integra/Onkyo processors.

Of course, the whole bass mgmt thing too . . . I vote HDMI for everything. You will have access to post processing as well, which for me, is the biggest thing I pay for with this kind of thing.
 

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