Onkyo TX-SR805 HDMI Trouble

[bassfrenzy]

I have a Philips plasma that displays HDMI picture directly from my Sony DVD and Motorola cable box with no problem. I have a 25 ft HDMI cable run with a Terk in-line repeater.

I can successfully do a component hookup to my Onkyo 805 from each source and choose to upscale using the HDMI output, but if I switch over to all HDMI inputs my video/adio blacks out. All my source assignments are correct.

I think it might have something to do with my Terk repeater used in conjunction with the Onkyo's built-in repeater. I tried unplugging the Terk and the picture now comes in and out like a typically week HDMI signal. I downscaled the DVD output to 720x480 and that picture works now, but it's not the quality I'm shooting for.

I obviously still need another in-line repeater/booster but don't know which one will be compatible with my Onkyo. From everything I've read, the HDMI versions are supposed to be backwards compatible. Is there a chance it could it be a v1.1 vs v1.3a problem? Any help would be much appreciated

Equipment:
Philips 42" plasma (42PF7320A/42)
Sony DVD (DVP-NC85H)
Motorola cable (DCT-3412)
Onkyo receiver (TX-SR805)

 

[bandphan]

why the repeater?

 

[MDS]

why the repeater?

Probably because it is a long distance. But apparently, multiple repeaters in series don't work too well. But then again, we are talking about two different kinds of 'repeaters'. The Terk repeater in series just amplifies and retransmits the signal; the repeater in the receiver strips out the audio and retransmits the video portion. I don't know what to say other than maybe having multiple devices acting on the signal is causing a problem.

 

[Biggiesized]

Maybe the HDMI cable can't meet the necessary specs to pass along 1080i video at that distance.

What cable are you using?

 

[rmk]

I have a Philips plasma that displays HDMI picture directly from my Sony DVD and Motorola cable box with no problem. I have a 25 ft HDMI cable run with a Terk in-line repeater.

I can successfully do a component hookup to my Onkyo 805 from each source and choose to upscale using the HDMI output, but if I switch over to all HDMI inputs my video/adio blacks out. All my source assignments are correct.

I think it might have something to do with my Terk repeater used in conjunction with the Onkyo's built-in repeater. I tried unplugging the Terk and the picture now comes in and out like a typically week HDMI signal. I downscaled the DVD output to 720x480 and that picture works now, but it's not the quality I'm shooting for.

I obviously still need another in-line repeater/booster but don't know which one will be compatible with my Onkyo. From everything I've read, the HDMI versions are supposed to be backwards compatible. Is there a chance it could it be a v1.1 vs v1.3a problem? Any help would be much appreciated

Equipment:
Philips 42" plasma (42PF7320A/42)
Sony DVD (DVP-NC85H)
Motorola cable (DCT-3412)
Onkyo receiver (TX-SR805)

I had the same issue (repeaters didn't work, signal dropout) with a long HDMI run to a 1080P projector from my Integra 9.8 SSP. The solution was a better (1.3 1080P certified) HDMI cable. I used the Audioholics Store and bought an Impact Acoustics Sonic Wave that resolved the problem.

 

[bassfrenzy]

OK, I just tested my DVD 1080i signal running direct from the player to the plasma WITHOUT the Terk repeater inline. Result: picture is sparkly and fades in/out. When I add the repeater back in it works like a champ.

The problem may be because the Onkyo repeater is at the source and not the display. I got my 25' cable from Vetco Electronics. It's supposedly UL and 1.3 rated w/gold connectors. I've got it running through my wall between two wall plates, so replacing the cable is NOT an option unless there are truly no other alternatives.

I still think I can by with using an additional repeater, just not the Terk. The self-powered model I'm using may not be able to sync the feed back together at the display end.

Any idea if a AC-powered repeater specifically rated at 1.3 would work?

 

[sharkman]

I've got a 25 ft cable that goes between my source (dvd player or HD tuner) and my projector, an older Hitachi HD, with no sign of weakness at all. My receiver is a Denon 3803, with only component video switching. I have no sparkles, but I spent around $200 on the cable.

When I tried an HDMI switch box, I had hand shake problems, but that may be because both the tuner and the projector are DVI, only the DVD player is HDMI. The cable is HDMI with DVI adapters where needed.

Anyway, I wonder if your unaccessable cable is the problem. But maybe Onkyo could give you advice on something that works with their receivers.

 

[bassfrenzy]

I have posted a problem report to the Onkyo customer service, but have not gotten any responses yet. My curious question of course is this. If the 25' cable is the problem, why does it work with the Terk repeater and not the Onkyo built-in repeater?

When I used components only and upscaled to 1080 through the receiver, the HDMI signal was fine. But, when I went to the HDMI inputs, the picture was gone with the Terk repeater installed and sparkly/flashy with it off.

I'm not doubting that a new multi-hundred $$ cable could fix or at least improve the problem, but it's an extremely expensive test that may not be worthwhile in the long run.

I'll try the Onkyo service line again because I really think it's a compatability issue between the built-in and the Terk.

 

[crashkelly]

I'm not doubting that a new multi-hundred $$ cable could fix or at least improve the problem, but it's an extremely expensive test that may not be worthwhile in the long run.

Take a look at Blue Jeans Cable HDMI Cables $72.50 + shipping for a 25ft. I have the 35ft version and it is excellent and thick as a garden hose (I know that thickness does not necesarily mean everything, but the cables are high quality and intended for long runs, hence the thicker 23.5 AWG)

This is of course assuming that the cable is the issue. If it turns out to be, take a look.

Cheers
Michael

 

[Midcow2]

I have found most Terk products work marginally, if at all. The only exception I have found is the Terk Technologies TEADVANTAGE AM-1000 AM ADVANTAGE Indoor AM Antenna

If you have a low quality cable that may be a big contributor to you problem.


The $75 Blue jeans cable may solve the problem completely. Monocable has a 25 ft at a lower cost: $19.17 which will probalby also solve your problem: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10231&cs_id=1023103&p_id=2842&seq=1&format=2

 

[crashkelly]

Monocable has a 25 ft at a lower cost: $19.17 which will probalby also solve your problem: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10231&cs_id=1023103&p_id=2842&seq=1&format=2

Yes, but the Blue Jeans Cable will give the video a chocolatey sheen

Totally joking.
Michael

 

[bandphan]

lreplacing is NOT an option unless there are truly no other alternatives.

I still think I can by with using an additional repeater, just not the Terk. The self-powered model I'm using may not be able to sync the feed back together at the display end.

Any idea if a AC-powered repeater specifically rated at 1.3 would work?

runs at 25' shouldnt require a "boost".Ive done runs over 35' with 0 loss. Can you tell the Onk to pass the signal through and not apply any upscale?IMO Order another cable before you invest in another booster, start by finding the problem not adding something.

 

[bassfrenzy]

After a few months the problem of HDMI signal strength has been resolved. Turns out it was not the cable or the receiver at all. I just upgraded my TV to a 52" Sony LCD (KDL-52W4100) and the problem has now disappeared. Apparently my Philips was not able to handle the signal from the Onkyo.

Thanks for all the replies/suggestions.