Oath Keepers founder guilty of seditious conspiracy for January 6 involvement

[Mr._Clark]

Mods: Feel free to delete this thread if it's too similar to the old (closed) January 6 thread.

It appears to me that Rhodes avoided going into the U.S. Capital in an effort to avoid criminal charges. Thus, the DOJ indicted him on seditious conspiracy, even though this can be difficult to prove.

>>>WASHINGTON, Nov 29 (Reuters) - Stewart Rhodes, founder of the right-wing Oath Keepers militia group, was found guilty on Tuesday of seditious conspiracy for last year's attack on the U.S. Capitol in a failed bid to overturn then-President Donald Trump's 2020 election loss - an important victory for the Justice Department.

The verdicts against Rhodes and four co-defendants, after three days of deliberations by the 12-member jury, came in the highest-profile trial so far to emerge from the deadly Jan. 6, 2021, assault on the U.S. Capitol, with other high-profile trials due to begin next month. . . .

Rhodes, a Yale Law School-educated former Army paratrooper and disbarred attorney, was . . . convicted on three counts and acquitted on two.<<<

Oath Keepers founder guilty of sedition in U.S. Capitol attack plot

Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes, and another leader of the right-wing group, were found guilty on Tuesday of seditious conspiracy for the attack on the U.S. Capitol by Donald Trump supporters, an important win for the Justice Department.

www.reuters.com

And, just in case you're wondering why he wears a patch over his eye, here it is:

"Rhodes, who wears an eye patch after accidentally shooting himself in the face with his own gun . . ."

 

[lovinthehd]

Love the irony in that last comment.

 

[ryanosaur]

A little part of me is dancing a bit over this.

 

[Swerd]

I tend to believe a Yale Law School grad can write his own ticket. But that doesn't even begin to describe Rhodes.

And when are the Feds going after Roger Stone? He is said to be the guy who went between Trump and the far right wing, such as Rhodes.

I'll refrain from dancing now … not until Rhodes gets sentenced to >10 years in a federal supermax prison … better yet, Gitmo.

 

[ryanosaur]

I tend to believe a Yale Law School grad can write his own ticket. But that doesn't even begin to describe Rhodes.

And when are the Feds going after Roger Stone? He is said to be the guy who went between Trump and the far right wing, such as Rhodes.

I'll refrain from dancing now … not until Rhodes gets sentenced to >10 years in a federal supermax prison … better yet, Gitmo.

This is why I’m only “a little part” is dancing “a bit”

 

[Mr._Clark]

And when are the Feds going after Roger Stone? He is said to be the guy who went between Trump and the far right wing, such as Rhodes.

I'll refrain from dancing now … not until Rhodes gets sentenced to >10 years in a federal supermax prison … better yet, Gitmo.

I'm assuming you know this, but Trump commuted Stone's sentence previously:

>>>WASHINGTON — President Trump commuted the sentence of his longtime friend Roger J. Stone Jr. on seven felony crimes on Friday, using the power of his office to spare a former campaign adviser days before Mr. Stone was to report to a federal prison to serve a 40-month term. . . .

The commutation, announced late on a Friday, when potentially damaging news is often released, was the latest action by the Trump administration upending the justice system to help the president’s convicted friends. The Justice Department moved in May to dismiss its own criminal case against Mr. Trump’s former national security adviser Michael T. Flynn, who had pleaded guilty to lying to the F.B.I. And last month, Mr. Trump fired Geoffrey S. Berman, the United States attorney whose office prosecuted Michael D. Cohen, the president’s former personal lawyer, and has been investigating Rudolph W. Giuliani, another of his lawyers.<<<

Trump Commutes Sentence of Roger Stone in Case He Long Denounced (Published 2020)

The president’s friend had been convicted of impeding a congressional inquiry that threatened Mr. Trump.

www.nytimes.com

I'm not sure what sentence Rhodes will get. I have not read the sentencing guidelines, but even if I did it would be a guess.

Here's what the DOJ said about his convictions and the maximum penalties:

>>>WASHINGTON – Elmer Stewart Rhodes III, the founder and leader of the Oath Keepers . . . [was] found guilty by a jury today of seditious conspiracy and other charges for crimes related to the breach of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. . . . Rhodes, 57, of Granbury, Texas, also was found guilty of obstruction of an official proceeding and tampering with documents and proceedings. . . .

The charges of seditious conspiracy, conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, obstruction of an official proceeding, and tampering with documents or proceedings each carry a statutory maximum penalty of 20 years in prison. . . . The Court will determine any sentence after considering the U.S. Sentencing Guidelines and other statutory factors.<<<

Two Leaders of Oath Keepers Found Guilty of Seditious Conspiracy and Other Charges Related to U.S. Capitol Breach

WASHINGTON – Elmer Stewart Rhodes III, the founder and leader of the Oath Keepers, and Kelly Meggs, the leader of the Florida chapter of the organization, were found guilty by a jury today of seditious conspiracy and other charges for crimes related to the breach of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6...

www.justice.gov

Rhodes lawyer said he'd appeal the conviction, but I give him precisely one snowball's chance in hell of winning on appeal.

 

[Trell]

Now that Trump has announced his candidacy for US president, the following is worth keeping in mind.

>>>Former president Donald Trump said he would issue full pardons and a government apology to rioters who stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, and violently attacked law enforcement to stop the democratic transfer of power. <<<

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/09/01/trump-jan-6-rioters-pardon/

 

[GO-NAD!]

I'm assuming you know this, but Trump commuted Stone's sentence previously:

>>>WASHINGTON — President Trump commuted the sentence of his longtime friend Roger J. Stone Jr. on seven felony crimes on Friday, using the power of his office to spare a former campaign adviser days before Mr. Stone was to report to a federal prison to serve a 40-month term. . . .

The commutation, announced late on a Friday, when potentially damaging news is often released, was the latest action by the Trump administration upending the justice system to help the president’s convicted friends. The Justice Department moved in May to dismiss its own criminal case against Mr. Trump’s former national security adviser Michael T. Flynn, who had pleaded guilty to lying to the F.B.I. And last month, Mr. Trump fired Geoffrey S. Berman, the United States attorney whose office prosecuted Michael D. Cohen, the president’s former personal lawyer, and has been investigating Rudolph W. Giuliani, another of his lawyers.<<<

Trump Commutes Sentence of Roger Stone in Case He Long Denounced (Published 2020)

The president’s friend had been convicted of impeding a congressional inquiry that threatened Mr. Trump.

www.nytimes.com

I'm not sure what sentence Rhodes will get. I have not read the sentencing guidelines, but even if I did it would be a guess.

Here's what the DOJ said about his convictions and the maximum penalties:

>>>WASHINGTON – Elmer Stewart Rhodes III, the founder and leader of the Oath Keepers . . . [was] found guilty by a jury today of seditious conspiracy and other charges for crimes related to the breach of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. . . . Rhodes, 57, of Granbury, Texas, also was found guilty of obstruction of an official proceeding and tampering with documents and proceedings. . . .

The charges of seditious conspiracy, conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, obstruction of an official proceeding, and tampering with documents or proceedings each carry a statutory maximum penalty of 20 years in prison. . . . The Court will determine any sentence after considering the U.S. Sentencing Guidelines and other statutory factors.<<<

Two Leaders of Oath Keepers Found Guilty of Seditious Conspiracy and Other Charges Related to U.S. Capitol Breach

WASHINGTON – Elmer Stewart Rhodes III, the founder and leader of the Oath Keepers, and Kelly Meggs, the leader of the Florida chapter of the organization, were found guilty by a jury today of seditious conspiracy and other charges for crimes related to the breach of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6...

www.justice.gov

Rhodes lawyer said he'd appeal the conviction, but I give him precisely one snowball's chance in hell of winning on appeal.

Trump's blatant abuse of his power to grant pardons and clear conflict of interest has certainly cast a pall over the process. It smacks of royal privilege as held historically by monarchs. Ironically - considering that we are a constitutional monarchy - such power does not exist in Canada, nor is it held by any politician. The power to grant pardons resides with the Parole Board of Canada.

 

[GO-NAD!]

Now that Trump has announced his candidacy for US president, the following is worth keeping in mind.

>>>Former president Donald Trump said he would issue full pardons and a government apology to rioters who stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, and violently attacked law enforcement to stop the democratic transfer of power. <<<

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/09/01/trump-jan-6-rioters-pardon/

Hmmm. If they're in jail, will they be able to vote for him?

 

[j_garcia]

Hmmm. If they're in jail, will they be able to vote for him?

Depends on the state they are incarcerated in. In California, State or Federal you cannot vote, but county jail you can.