not Getting good sound output

[Dr.Vinayaka.G]

Good evening sir
My home theatre area-room- 17'6'' X 12'00'' with wooden flooring
System config:
One Pair Wharfedale Diamond 230 Floorstanding Speakers
One Piece Wharfedale 220 Centre Channel Speake
Two Pair Wharfedale 10.DFS rear/Surround Speakers
Wharfedale D-10 Subwoofer
One pair of warfaedale 10. DFS as height speakers
Pioneer LX-302 Av Receiver
I am not getting good surround effect.
I configured speakers by Macc tuning and speakers are in perfect alignment
I sincerely seek help regarding suggestions for improving system so that I can get good sound effect for both movies and music
Should I buy one more subwoofer if yes what brand and which is the best
Any other change of speakers. Budget any amount
With regards
Vinayaka

 

[PENG]

Good evening sir
My home theatre area-room- 17'6'' X 12'00'' with wooden flooring
System config:
One Pair Wharfedale Diamond 230 Floorstanding Speakers
One Piece Wharfedale 220 Centre Channel Speake
Two Pair Wharfedale 10.DFS rear/Surround Speakers
Wharfedale D-10 Subwoofer
One pair of warfaedale 10. DFS as height speakers
Pioneer LX-302 Av Receiver
I am not getting good surround effect.
I configured speakers by Macc tuning and speakers are in perfect alignment
I sincerely seek help regarding suggestions for improving system so that I can get good sound effect for both movies and music
Should I buy one more subwoofer if yes what brand and which is the best
Any other change of speakers. Budget any amount
With regards
Vinayaka

More subwoofers won't help surround effects. If you are not getting good surround effect, I suggest your try different source media (blu-ray movies etc.) first because how they were recorded/mastered mostly determine what you hear. If it is in fact due to deficiencies in your system, then make sure your speakers are positioned in the recommended positions for the 5.1.2 Atmos setup. After that, you may look into replacing the AV receiver. Anything from Denon's AVR-X3X00H, Marantz SR-601X and Yamaha RX-A20X0 and up should be better than your Pioneer, though I think for your speakers, you can do better with the AVR-X4300H or SR6012 or higher models. I prefer D&M models because of the very decent Audyssey Room EQ system especially their dynamic EQ feature.

 

[Dr.Vinayaka.G]

Thank you.
I had checked with Netflix avatar not much of effect.
I have configured speakers according to Dolby setup measured with tape and angles.

I bought the pioneer receiver just 3 months back and cost of marantz sr 1012 is 1,35 000 rupess it is really huge amount
Any other alternatives
Please help me out
With regards

 

[lovinthehd]

Describe more about what you mean by not getting good surround effect. Different avrs may have some different dsp choices but as was said mostly it's what you start with, what format do you get Netflix in and via what device?

 

[PENG]

Thank you.
I had checked with Netflix avatar not much of effect.
I have configured speakers according to Dolby setup measured with tape and angles.

I bought the pioneer receiver just 3 months back and cost of marantz sr 1012 is 1,35 000 rupess it is really huge amount
Any other alternatives
Please help me out
With regards

I don't know about Netflix USA, I do know Netflix Canada doesn't offer the best sound quality. I am not aware that they offer Atmos. May be you should try playing the same movie on blu ray and see if you like it better.

 

[Dr.Vinayaka.G]

I use Amazon Fire stick for getting Netflix
And I have unlimited broad band -8mbps
In speaker- selected small and cross over - 80 hz. I have set speakers according to Dolby 7.1 setting and I have 2 height speakers for 5.1.2 setup at recommended distance and height and angle
Please help me out

 

[Dr.Vinayaka.G]

Format Netflix - full HD

 

[lovinthehd]

Format Netflix - full HD

Audio format is?

 

[Dr.Vinayaka.G]

Dolby Digital plus

 

[lovinthehd]

Dolby Digital plus

You leaving that at 5.1 or matrixing it to 7.1? What sound modes are you using?

 

[Dr.Vinayaka.G]

Dolby Surround- 7.1format
Or
Dolby Atmos-5.1.2 format

 

[PENG]

Dolby Surround- 7.1format
Or
Dolby Atmos-5.1.2 format

Again, I would like to emphasize two points:

1. Netflix appears to have limited titles mastered in Dolby Atmos. So for movie titles that are not, you won't get the best effect, but I assumed you knew that already.

2. Even in 5.1 DD+, I have found the overall sound effects/quality when watching Netflix is consistently not as good as (not even close) when watching the same title on a Blu ray disc. That's why I suggested you try and watch the same movies on Blu ray using your blu ray player for comparison. Remember too, DD+ is inherently of lower quality than DDTHD and DTS-HD MA etc.

Your system setup is likely fine, your media source, in this case Netflix could be the bottleneck and/or there is something not right about your Fire Stick settings.

 

[pewternhrata]

How is the firestick connected?

 

[TLS Guy]

What output levels to you get with the set up test tones?

If these are OK, the problem is the source. Since it is India we can't trust any streaming.

Use a a well know BD disc. I suspect your receiver is fine.

 

[mtrycrafts]

Dolby Digital plus

You certainly will not get Atmos with that audio codec from Netflix.
Matrixing it to 7.1 is up for grabs.

 

[pewternhrata]

You leaving that at 5.1 or matrixing it to 7.1? What sound modes are you using?

You know more than me on this, but if his firestick is connected directly to the tv, he is sending audio through either digital, arc, or stereo to his receiver. He would be limited on formats (you seem more familar with formats that can be passsed, isn't 5.1 compressed over digital and arc?) the firestick, preferably a firebox, should be connected to his receiver via hdmi to pass audio formats

 

[lovinthehd]

You know more than me on this, but if his firestick is connected directly to the tv, he is sending audio through either digital, arc, or stereo to his receiver. He would be limited on formats (you seem more familar with formats that can be passsed, isn't 5.1 compressed over digital and arc?) the firestick, preferably a firebox, should be connected to his receiver via hdmi to pass audio formats

LOL I don't know about that, but hopefully his firestick is connected to his avr. It's like pulling teeth to get this guy to talk about his setup or what he's experiencing or what he thinks it's lacking particularly (what is he comparing it to?). I hadn't even considered ARC or what his tv might be throttling audio-wise. He indicates he's getting DD+ but he doesn't say the how/where (hopefully it's being received at the receiver this way). You're right, ARC/optical connections will be via a lossy format in 5.1 at best and could be limited to 2.0 depending on tv.

For all we know he thinks equal volume should come out of each speaker all the time or something....

 

[Dr.Vinayaka.G]

Thanks a lot

I connect fire stick directly to av receiver

 

[Dr.Vinayaka.G]

I have connected av receiver to tv by profigold hdmi cable and optic cable as I don’t have hdmi arc in my tv

 

[lovinthehd]

I have connected av receiver to tv by profigold hdmi cable and optic cable as I don’t have hdmi arc in my tv

ARC is way overrated and gives you the same audio as the optical cable. Had to look up Profigold, tho.