Nissan forgot something called security - in their cars

[haraldo]

When Nissan made their Leaf cars remote controlled, they seemed to forget one thing, namely security

Anyone can connect to the car, from anywhere, without any kind of authentication

Well done Nissan

http://www.troyhunt.com/2016/02/controlling-vehicle-features-of-nissan.html

https://translate.google.no/translate?sl=no&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http://www.digi.no/sikkerhet/2016/02/24/nissan-leaf-lar-seg-kontrollere-fra-internett.-uten-passord&edit-text=&act=url

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

Not surprised after Chrysler/Jeep/Fiat fiasco.
http://www.wired.com/2015/07/hackers-remotely-kill-jeep-highway/
My subaru outback 2015, which otherwise is awesome car, but it's entertainment system tech is taken straight out of approx 2009 and well as it's complimenting mobile apps.
Luckily harman made speakers, make me forget most of its flaws and BT has been implemented nicely - allows decent usage with smartphone audio streaming including basic remote control and album names+artwork

 

[TheWarrior]

Not surprised after Chrysler/Jeep/Fiat fiasco.
http://www.wired.com/2015/07/hackers-remotely-kill-jeep-highway/
My subaru outback 2015, which otherwise is awesome car, but it's entertainment system tech is taken straight out of approx 2009 and well as it's complimenting mobile apps.
Luckily harman made speakers, make me forget most of its flaws and BT has been implemented nicely - allows decent usage with smartphone audio streaming including basic remote control and album names+artwork

And it's a Subaru. It'll cost nothing but fluids and reasonably priced consumables for the couple hundred thousand!

 

[Chu Gai]

That and known head gasket issues across most of the models somewhere around 100K give or take.

 

[TheWarrior]

That and known head gasket issues across most of the models somewhere around 100K give or take.

The internet makes that out to be a huge issue, but our Subaru @ 250k and everyone we know with one, has had nothing but trouble free driving.

The suspension alone made it to 200k! Being parked by the ocean for a decade only resulted in one small rubber piece on the underside of the rear drive shaft failed. Paint is flawless for an outdoor ONLY 14 year old car!

I'd give 'em more credit than that, and not rev the snot out of a cold motor! ;-)

 

[Chu Gai]

I suspect it may be a more geographical issue related to colder climes.

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

That and known head gasket issues across most of the models somewhere around 100K give or take.

I suspect it may be a more geographical issue related to colder climes.

Doesn't apply since my lease will expire long before I reach 100k miles on it

 

[Chu Gai]

Some might find the following useful.

http://longtermqualityindex.com

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

Some might find the following useful.

http://longtermqualityindex.com

Mildly interesting, but ultimately near useless for two big reasons:
a) "Mileage distribution charts are designed to give you an idea about what the average life-span of a vehicle is, based on the trade-in vehicle data we have. Obviously there is some selection bias here; if someone buys a vehicle and keeps it until it croaks, it won't show up in our data."
b) data points average from few hundreds per brand/model to as much as about 2k
With big names in car sell that much in less than day, I'd say that statistically the sample size is too small to build any reliable conclusions.

Consumer reports (paywalled) show pretty different data regrading reliability and also trends with years - does the manufacturer improves it or not. For example Subaru outback today is vastly different fro outback 5-6 years ago

 

[Chu Gai]

Sure it's different and you won't know for some time how the new model holds up. BTW, the wife is strongly considering either an Outback or Forrester which is fine by me but she has yet gotten around to a test drive. We'll probably use Trucar for pricing and buy it from a NE dealership as they seem to have more favorable pricing.

 

[TheWarrior]

Sure it's different and you won't know for some time how the new model holds up. BTW, the wife is strongly considering either an Outback or Forrester which is fine by me but she has yet gotten around to a test drive. We'll probably use Trucar for pricing and buy it from a NE dealership as they seem to have more favorable pricing.

I recommend the 2.5L naturally aspirated motors! Nothing against turbo charging, I love it, but on Subaru's the turbo equates to pure performance, not fuel economy. So over the long run the turbo will cost more cause some day you're gonna need to replace it!

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

I recommend the 2.5L naturally aspirated motors! Nothing against turbo charging, I love it, but on Subaru's the turbo equates to pure performance, not fuel economy. So over the long run the turbo will cost more cause some day you're gonna need to replace it!

My outback has naturally aspirated 3.6L boxer. Tbh: for larger car like outback - it's basically sized like mid-sized suv - you do need that much. This is not WRX engine - it's pretty laid back and a lazy one. They could've gotten a bit more out of it. With 2.5L engine, though I didn't drove it, reviewers do mention it's a bit noisier and works harder. I do love to put foot down and then needed my outback does haul azz.

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

Sure it's different and you won't know for some time how the new model holds up. BTW, the wife is strongly considering either an Outback or Forrester which is fine by me but she has yet gotten around to a test drive. We'll probably use Trucar for pricing and buy it from a NE dealership as they seem to have more favorable pricing.

Ride is confident, but Outback is no a Lexus - bumps on the road are felt, but they are not terrible, just enough to let you know what's going on. Some may like it (I do) some might pick something softer.

 

[TheWarrior]

My outback has naturally aspirated 3.6L boxer. Tbh: for larger car like outback - it's basically sized like mid-sized suv - you do need that much. This is not WRX engine - it's pretty laid back and a lazy one. They could've gotten a bit more out of it. With 2.5L engine, though I didn't drove it, reviewers do mention it's a bit noisier and works harder. I do love to put foot down and then needed my outback does haul azz.

Those new Outbacks (and Foresters) are huge! Thats my only complaint, I love the capacity of the old Forester, and that its body never felt like an SUV.

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

Those new Outbacks (and Foresters) are huge! Thats my only complaint, I love the capacity of the old Forester, and that its body never felt like an SUV.

Here's my personal opinion. Take in consideration that I own/lease outback.
Here is goes: Older (pre-2013) Foresters looks so horribly ugly to me that I won't touch it with 10 foot pole. Outback were always a bit less boxy but early ones were essentially legacy with slightly higher suspension.
Now new outbacks are larger, for sure, but they are still not as tall as most SUVs are easier to get in and out. My wife was specifically against SUVs, but Outback is wolf (aka suv) in sheep's (crossover) clothing.
It drives like most SUV (well, a bit better actually imo ), and it doesn't look like SUV, but make no mistake - outback is massive compared to any crossover - that's why it's not as fast and fuel economy is not great (especially on 3.6L version - my highway mpg is barely 24, city is typical 17-18)

Btw: It's large size and capacity is not my complain, it was one of the reasons I picked it.

 

[Irvrobinson]

I've had two Forresters as rental cars, and I didn't like them. The most annoying thing - a super-sensitive jerky throttle. They were difficult to drive smoothly in traffic without a lot of concentration. Seats were not very comfortable. Cheap plastics on dash and doors. No shade in the rear to hide personal articles. Ugly. Big. Headlights sucked. At least the handling wasn't bad. Overall, no way would I buy one.

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

gas throttle is still pretty sensitive on outback, but I got used to it

 

[TheWarrior]

Coming from over a decade of motorcycle only, I appreciate instant throttle. If I'm pushing the pedal, its because I want to feed fuel!

 

[Irvrobinson]

Coming from over a decade of motorcycle only, I appreciate instant throttle. If I'm pushing the pedal, its because I want to feed fuel!

There's a difference between instant throttle response, and non-linearity with a large amount of initial opening just to give the impression of more torque than is really there. One is the sign of well-designed engine, the other is a cheap trick.

 

[TheWarrior]

There's a difference between instant throttle response, and non-linearity with a large amount of initial opening just to give the impression of more torque than is really there. One is the sign of well-designed engine, the other is a cheap trick.

Are the newer ones throttle-by-wire? Ours is simply a taut cable.