new to the site.....question about surround sound systems

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tbroad21

Audiophyte
I currently have a marantz SR4002 reciever, 9 year old kenwood center/sub/rear speakers, and bose 601 IV front tower speakers. I have been lookinndg at the paradigm 110 CT set....is this a good system? any other ideas? my budget is around $1000-$1500

thanks,
-Tyler
 
3db

3db

Audioholic Slumlord
I currently have a marantz SR4002 reciever, 9 year old kenwood center/sub/rear speakers, and bose 601 IV front tower speakers. I have been lookinndg at the paradigm 110 CT set....is this a good system? any other ideas? my budget is around $1000-$1500

thanks,
-Tyler
Hello and welcome. Yes, Paradigm makes great speakers. BUT!! :eek: Everyone here including myself have their brand preference and will suggest them to you. Speakers are very subjective..i.e. one man's meat is naother man's poison kind of thing. What you need to do is to audition as many speakers for yourself to get an idea of what sound you like.

What I would do is to take a pad of paper with you, write down the make and
model of each speaker you audition and what you liked and disliked about the
speakers you were auditioning. Was the bass tight and deep or was it boomy and loose sounding? Were the mids life like or were they hollow or just too pronounced? Was the treble irritating and harsh or were they dark and not revealing or were they smooththat made you want to listen for more? How was the imaging?

Bring music with you that you are very familiar with and know quite well. To
make it easier to audition HT speaker systems, listen to the main speakers in 2
channel mode with music. Music is much harder to reproduce accurately then a movie soundtrack so if the speakers do well with music, then they will do well with HT. Speakers that do HT well may not do well with music. When auditioning the center channel of the same brand and series as the main speakers, pick a difficult source like an announcer that mumbles alot. If you can understand what the mumbling announcer is saying, then you have a good center channel.

I would go to speciality stores first and start auditioning speakers first
instead of going to the internet first. Once your likes are determined, you can
mention them here and fellow members can make internet brand recommendations based on your likes/dislikes. The specality stores are better setup acousticaly then the big box stores which will make auditioning a little easier. It will give you an idea of what you like in a speaker.

Keep track of what amp or receiver is powering the speakers you're auditioning. Try to get a receiver/amp that closest resembles what you have or want to get. It just reduces another variable when audtioning speakers.


One thing to keep note off. When auditioning speakers, make sure the volume
levels are matched between the diiferent speaker pairs because the louder
speaker pair will always sound better. Listen to levels that you think you
would listen to most of the time because thats how you are going to be using
them most of the time.

Recommendations are PSB, Paradigm, Energy, Polks, Infinity, Boston Acoustics, etc.
 
sholling

sholling

Audioholic Ninja
Welcome to the site! I got my start with some series one 601s back in 1979.

Paradigm makes some great stuff but as far as those Paradigms go I think you can do a lot better with your budget. For example the first thing that caught my eye is the poor frequency response (120-20khz) of the speakers. 120hz is too high. Much above 80hz and it becomes obvious when the source transitions between the speakers and the sub and back. Sort of the audio equivalent of watching a ping pong match. If you want to go with a bookshelf system look for one with speakers that reach down to 80hz or lower.

There are a couple of ways to go with this but one thing you haven't told us is the size of the room. The reason that I say that is it's easy to eat up $1500 with just a sub if you have a huge room. On the other hand you can get by quite nicely with well less than half that with a medium sized room. Take the time to measure the room (cubic feet) including any spaces that it's open to.

The quick and easy approach would be to just buy a package deal from one of the internet direct manufactures like SVSound or Hsu Research. I've listened to (and own) their subs but not their speakers so I can't personally vouch for them but the reviews have been good. Specifically the SVS SBS-2/PB12-NSD 5.1 Deluxe package and Hsu's Enthusiast 2 or 3 systems.

Another option would be to audition a pair of Infinity Primus P362 towers. These are widely regarded and some of the best sound quality bang for the buck towers. You should be able to audition them locally but if you can't find good deal on them locally then the Audioholics Store sells them for $400/pr shipped, the timbre matched PC350 center for $200 shipped, and you could use the P152 bookshelves ($150/pr) for surrounds. That's about $750 shipped and leaves you $750 or so for a decent sub. I'd contact SVSound, give them the dimensions and total cubic footage and have them size a sub for your room.

If you have the room a step up would be a pair of the long discontinued Boston Acoustics VR3 towers that OneCall has been blowing out. They're big and need some room around them but they are super easy to drive and sound awesome. I ran a pair of these for 4 years and loved them. OneCall has them bundled with the timbre matched VRC center for $809 shipped. For surrounds you could use the Whafedale WH-2 surrounds that Wild West Electronics sells for $80/pr. That still leaves you $600 for an SVS PB12-NSD.
 
BoredSysAdmin

BoredSysAdmin

Audioholic Slumlord
+1 what was said above, I'd just like to confirm/summarize what sholling said:
Paradigm 110 CT are bad choice especially for large rooms and the old good scenario one should get them then design [read WAF] considerations take highest priority.
$1500 will get you a lot of in speakers, as long as you stay off premium segment brands like Paradigm.

I think you'll better off keeping your receiver, but try to look for more efficient speakers to compensate like:
Boston VR3 and Infinity Primus P362 already mention. I'd like to add to this short list Klipsch - Their horn speakers extremely efficient - easy to drive and their sq is very high. However - I highly rec to go to local b&m store and listed to them - they are love or hate - Typically there are no middle ground opinions about them.
 
sholling

sholling

Audioholic Ninja
I'd like to add to this short list Klipsch - Their horn speakers extremely efficient - easy to drive and their sq is very high. However - I highly rec to go to local b&m store and listed to them - they are love or hate - Typically there are no middle ground opinions about them.
+1. Klipsch are love'em or hate'em and it seems to run about 50:50. If you do audition them take your music and plan to spend a long time auditioning them because the usual complaint from the "don't love'em" group is that they can get a bit fatiguing to some ears after a long listening session. Not everyone feels it. But to some it's nerve wracking.
 
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Boerd

Full Audioholic
I currently have a marantz SR4002 reciever, 9 year old kenwood center/sub/rear speakers, and bose 601 IV front tower speakers. I have been lookinndg at the paradigm 110 CT set....is this a good system? any other ideas? my budget is around $1000-$1500

thanks,
-Tyler
Recommandations - Aperion/NHT/Emotiva.
 

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