New Sony ES Receivers

[Khellandros66]

<font color='#000000'>Hey Everyone~

OMG did any see or hear these yet

http://www.agoraquest.com/print.php?sid=154

DAMNNN

Yo Gene and Steve get on it I want to see a review on the STR-DA9000ES

How bout it everyone?

~Bob</font>

 

[Yamahaluver]

<font color='#0000FF'>Sure looks SONY is serious about its HT business and wants to get on top. Would be nice to see a review.</font>

 

[Khellandros66]

<font color='#000000'>I don't about anyone else but I have heard Digital AMPS before and they great but I prefer the natural sound of Class A, A/B amps.  Older digital amps that I've heard sound clear but not quite as organic as Class A, A/B.  I don't doubt though that they've been improved.  I wouldn't mind having the 5000ES 170w x 7ch (not THD spec listed yet, but probably 0.09 or 0.1 which on digital doesn't matter much)

Also take a look at the new ES DVD players which are all SACD and 12bit/216MHz Video DACs!!!

~Bob</font>

 

[Audioholics]

<font color='#008080'>With that kind of pricing level, it seems that nearly every Sony receiver will be &quot;ES&quot;... I wonder who pays less than $600 for a receiver these days that isn't getting a HTIB?

These units will definitely need to be reviewed. We have lots of reviews lined up - these will have to go on our list.

The most exciting trend I saw was component video up-sampling. I like this a lot and think all receivers over $800 should offer it.</font>

 

[Khellandros66]

<font color='#000000'>Hawke~

Do you know if Yamaha has anything up their sleeves.  I heard both them an Sony are working on a 2.6GHz DSP which could in fact be used for up to 16 channels of audio.  Is this true?  I don't see more than 7.1 taking off in the mid-fi range, but only time will tell.

BTW. I want to see at least a 15 page review of the 5803!

~Bob</font>

 

[gene]

<font color='#000000'>Bob;

Thanks for the email, we posted the link to the Sony article on our frontpage.

Your killing me with the 15 page requirement for my review of the Denon 5803 &nbsp;

&nbsp; Actually, I estimate it will be at least that long as a word doc given the complexity of the unit and the attention to detail I plan on giving it. &nbsp;The problem is, it sounds so darn good that I haven't been able to stay away from it long enough to begin my review. &nbsp;

Component Video upconversion isn't new, Denon was perhaps the first to include it on the 5803, others will soon follow.

As for Yamaha's new technologies, I am attending an exclusive Yamaha Demo in NYC next month where they will be announcing some interesting stuff. &nbsp;I am not at liberty to report as of yet since I am under NDA. &nbsp;We will be posting info on this when appropriate. &nbsp;

16.1 format? &nbsp;That is ridiculous &nbsp;

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[Khellandros66]

<font color='#000000'>Gene~

I agree 16.1 would be ridiculous.  I am not yet up for 6.1/7.1 yet, even though I could in fact set my room up for, I would lackit s potential due to having a small room.  There are also some new dvd players which are sweet.

12bit/216MHz video DACs, thats right.

heres the link

http://news.sel.sony.com/pressrelease/3730

~Bob</font>

 

[mustang_steve]

<font color='#000000'>WHen I hear about 7 and 8 channel audio setups, it reminds me of some psycho-acoutical tests done back in teh 70s.

Forgot who performed these tests, but I do remeber that the ideal surrond setup that their test subjects said was the mos 'realistic' was a 5 channel setup, but the center was in back.

Now If memeory serves me right, the only reason for the center channel up front was for voice placement, so if you wnat the best of both, in theory a 6.1 chanel setup would be fine, but the placement would be slightly different.

Oh well, the market is moving towards the more is better route, like the 32&quot; car woofer I saw 3 years or so back...Does anyone remeber when recievers were so simple, they came with schematics that even a kid could read? &nbsp;Good luck on that now &nbsp;

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[Guest]

<font color='#000000'>Nice, but for me the question is - do they come in BLACK?
I hate 'the latest fad' and it seems its going back to the 70's silver look. &nbsp;Me, I prefer black - it blends better.

Now how does that STR-DA3000ES compare to the STR-DA4ES?

And what can you really do with those RS232 ports since most recievers use them for upgrades that are practically non-existent.</font>

 

[Guest]

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Khellandros66 : <font color='#000000'>12bit/216MHz video DACs, thats right.

heres the link

http://news.sel.sony.com/pressrelease/3730

~Bob</font>

<font color='#000000'>Call me crazy But I'd like to see the DAC part go out the window all together.

I'd like my digital DVD to plug into my Digital TV/projector and display my scaled digital image to the screen.

At least it sounds nicer than converting to analog, scaling it, then feeding to a DLP/LCD projector/TV which converts it back to digital and scales it again.

Rob</font>

 

[Khellandros66]

<font color='#000000'>Rob~

I agree with you totally, I would actually like to see a DVI and mabye RGB (optional H/V) as well. &nbsp;See what kills me is they throw this high speed DACs and not full RGB outs. &nbsp;I am a multimedia student at PTI and found out that Component video it really capable of 16.7Million Colors, but RGB H/V is capable ot 32 million, what gives?

~

Bob</font>

 

[PaulF]

<font color='#000000'>Bob,

I don't really think it's a question of colors, 16.7 million colors is already more than the eye can percieve. Also the number of colors is not determined by whether component, S-Video or composite is used but rather the digitizing process.

Component video (an analog output) , if not digitized is capable of the full spectrum of colors without any limitation.

On the other hand, a digital output is limited to the number of shades it can recreate, for instance the number of bits used in RGB, then this will have an effect on the number of colors available.

Paul</font>