New Setup

[DestinyTTK]

I am setting up a new room for audio setup. The room is about 12X12 but no more than 15X15 so it is small. This will be used for PS4 and XBOX1. It will also play movies and watch sports. I want great bass and clear sound. I want to play madden and hear the crowd cheer and watch movies like Transformers and hear the rumble.

My setup that I am thinking of is below, please make adjustments and give me thoughts.

Klipsch Synergy B-20
Klipsch Synergy C-20
Denon AVR-S500BT 5.2-Channel AV Receiver
Dayton Audio SUB-1500 15" 150 Watt Powered Subwoofer

I would consider a 12" as well but let me know what you all think.

 

[felipe]

Hi DestinyTTK. Before I say anything, may I ask what your budget is? Depending on your budget, there are many other options...although what you have listed will play plenty loud and clear for that space I think .

 

[DestinyTTK]

Well I am pretty flexible with the budget, right now pricing it all out at is at 650$. Seeing I still need to add surrounds I would say let's keep it at about 800$.

 

[felipe]

Ok. I'm assuming you like a brighter sound as you chose Klipsch. I've owned Klipsch before and they DO have a clear and clean sound to them, not to mention they are power efficient. Since the AVR you selected has dual sub outputs, instead of the Dayton 15" you can get two Dayton 12"? I think they are on sale on Parts Express. Add an addtional pair of the B-20s for rears,and you have a well-matched system that will play loud and clear . Why dual subs? It's to even out the bass response and eliminate some of the nulls and peaks. Hope this helps .

 

[afterlife2]

This receiver has 7.2 and more power: http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavrs700w/denon-avr-s700w-7.2-4k-a/v-receiver-wi-fi/bluetooth/airplay/1.html

or

http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-7-2-Channel-Receiver-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B00B981F4M

 

[DestinyTTK]

I chose Klipsch after looking at several bookshelf speakers and prices and such. I know Yamaha had some, but I don't remember the model. I tend to like Klipsch products and the sound they produce. I am just not sure that what I am going to using them for if they will do the job. This is why I created the post just for some other ideas or to see if what I am currently looking at is sufficient. I do like the sound of dual 12" subs the wall may shake, but oh well. I was thinking of Klipsch Synergy S-10 or S-20
for the surrounds

 

[Seth=L]

I may be going against the grain here, but if that 15" Dayton is a good sub I might suggest sticking with that as it will take up less total space and you would have to fight standing waves. Even identical subwoofers can appose one another and create nulls and humps in the frequency response which is very undesirable.

I've tried on numerous occasions to get a pair of M&K V-125 subwoofers (125 watt 12" subwoofers) to work their magic in a small room and never could get it to work the way I wanted. In fact in most cases it sounded better when I just used one of them as apposed to the pair. The closest I got to them working well together I could barely tell a difference between just having one or the pair running.

Just my humble opinion.

Edit: Maybe I'm a novice at home theater, but I'm telling you it was very frustrating to have gone through the process of looking for a mate to my existing subwoofer, getting it hooked up and not yielding the fruit I was expecting. I'm chalking it up to the room being too small, I spent months trying to get it right. Equally annoying was the space it took up in my room.

 

[felipe]

With the budget you are working with, I believe what you are looking at will be sufficient. I think that with those surrounds you will be going beyond your budget? If your willing to stretch some, then by all means go for it . Otherwise, getting a second pair of B-20s for the rears will do the job also IMO .

P.S. I advised dual subs b/c the AVR you listed has dual sub outs, and having ran dual subs before, I achieved great success I must say. It takes some time, but it'll pay off in the end..bass everywhere . Why look at a 15" sub if I may ask? Was it for extension or impact? If it's for impact, then given your room size you can even go dual 10" subs ...just a thought.

 

[Seth=L]

Why look at a 15" sub if I may ask? Was it for extension...

This is what popped in my head when I read that.

 

[felipe]

Ha ha..I remember that movie

 

[DestinyTTK]

So I have it all setup but I find the subwoofer to be very low and I have to turn the receiver up to 62 for high sound. I would think a sub of this matter would output some serious bass?

 

[tyhjaarpa]

So I have it all setup but I find the subwoofer to be very low and I have to turn the receiver up to 62 for high sound. I would think a sub of this matter would output some serious bass?

What position your sub volume control is at?

 

[DestinyTTK]

Not sure what you are asking me but on the back of the sub the crossover and gain are turned almost all the way up. And the sub level from the receiver is at 12db high as it goes. I just don't see why I have to turn it up to get a sufficient sound from the speakers

 

[felipe]

I believe what tyhjaarpa meant was about the sub volume (gain) control. As far as the crossover control, I would turn that all the way to the highest value or number, and use the crossover on the AVR. Speaking of the AVR, did you use Audyssey? It might have set your speakers to Large, which might lead to low output from the sub. If so, set them to small, and set the crossover to 80hz for a start. See if that helps .