New Onkyo details...

[davo]

Here are the details, balls an' all, for the entire range of A/V receivers. (pdf, sorry)

Are the differences between the 905 and 875 really worth the price difference?

http://gs.id.au/onkyo.pdf

 

[BabelFish]

Nice!! now only if denon will do the same! uhg

 

[avaserfi]

I guess it depends on how much you want networking capabilities. They both look like very nice capable receivers. Any set date for their releases my dad is kind of interested after I told him to do some looking into them.

 

[BabelFish]

Sorry.. I never really answered your question..

i have also been reading up on the Onkyos and the Denons. From what I have been reading, your question is being asked by a lot of people. Because of how feature packed the "1 model down from the top is" a lot of people are not finding the extra cost worth the little extra features. This holds true for both Denon (4308 to the 3808) and Onkyo (905 to the 875).

I myself am considering the 875 or the 3808... I don't find the extra features worth the extra month (though I would miss the Ethernet connection on the 875).

 

[Seth=L]

Another difference between the TX-SR875 and the TX-NR905 is the 905 has a torroid, the 875 doesn't. I don't know if that makes much difference.

 

[davo]

Another difference between the TX-SR875 and the TX-NR905 is the 905 has a torroid, the 875 doesn't. I don't know if that makes much difference.

Glad you picked that up, I'm waiting for someone to post a bit of info in layman terms about it.
The 905 and 875 have the same power rating, interesting...

 

[jcPanny]

Networking

FYI,
You can add wireless meadia streaming to any receiver with a squeeze box 3 for $300. The new Onkyo could be different by I have heard about plenty of problems and usability issues with people trying to use the network connections on Yamaha and Denon.

 

[ohio]

FYI,
You can add wireless meadia streaming to any receiver with a squeeze box 3 for $300. The new Onkyo could be different by I have heard about plenty of problems and usability issues with people trying to use the network connections on Yamaha and Denon.

My old Onkyo TX-NR900 (circa 2002) has ethernet network functionality that works great... mine's not wireless but my guess is that they haven't screwed it up in the 5 years since.

 

[dobyblue]

I just noticed that the 805 is the lowest model with DSD native support.
Good news. I think I just found my new receiver to go along with my new SACD player in the PS3.

 

[Seth=L]

I keep saying this, but the TX-SR805 has to be one of the greatest receivers for the money around the $1000 mark.

 

[swestbom]

PS3 and DSD in receivers

I think I just found my new receiver to go along with my new SACD player in the PS3.

That would be true if the PS3 passed DSD, it does not, it converts it to LPCM in software. Any HDMI 1.1 receiver that processes LPCM will do what you want.

Some European DVD players use the HDMI 1.2a spec DSD feature, but I don't think there are any in the U.S that don't convert to LPCM instead. (BTW most of the better European equivalent of our receivers process DSD and the American ones do not). The marketing powers that be have decided we don't need or want it since a generally inferior LPCM conversion can do the trick. Saves the manufacturer licensing and manufacturing costs (not engineering since they sell them in Europe), most consumers don't know the difference nor do they care.

 

[dobyblue]

That would be true if the PS3 passed DSD, it does not, it converts it to LPCM in software. Any HDMI 1.1 receiver that processes LPCM will do what you want.

Some European DVD players use the HDMI 1.2a spec DSD feature, but I don't think there are any in the U.S that don't convert to LPCM instead. (BTW most of the better European equivalent of our receivers process DSD and the American ones do not). The marketing powers that be have decided we don't need or want it since a generally inferior LPCM conversion can do the trick. Saves the manufacturer licensing and manufacturing costs (not engineering since they sell them in Europe), most consumers don't know the difference nor do they care.

Yes you're right I've been looking and if I want native DSD seems I'd have to import.

From what I've been reading though the 5.1 PCM 24/176.4 output of decimated DSD over HDMI that the PS3 acheives using the cell processor is pretty damned impressive.