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chickcoria

Audiophyte
Dear all, I know that you have been hearing people asking for advices, and I am another one calling your attention...

I'm planning to build a HT to use for music (40%) and movies (60%) and I have a low budget...I included 1k but depending on what this HT will be, i might consider a little bit more (or less).
My first idea was to find a nice 2.1 system, but after thinking a little bit more I've decided to pick up a 5.1....

As much as I read, the most important thing to do is match main and central speakers. Actually, I read an nice article saying the ideal system should consider ~80% between central (40%), main speakers (25%) and subwoofer (25%). I decided to put a budget of 1k and it needs to include the receiver.

Fisrt of all, I thought that would be a nice idea to buy used speakers, maybe B&W 600 series (S1), which can be found by 300-400 USD the main and central. This would allow me to get a 250USD subwoower (like wharfedale; energy, polk or others) and any SR speakers (by 100-200 USD). Considering that I could buy a DENON, YAMAHA by 250, or maybe a little bit more (+100) and get an Air Play system.

But....I'm not sure if worth to expend this amount of money buying used (and old model) speakers. Looking forward it seems that buying a brand new will give me a longer time to enjoy the system, and I went to see some otpions.

1) Best NEW material by 1k
Wharfedale main speakers = ~350 (Evo 8-2/ Diamond 10.1)
Wharfedale central speaker = ~150/200/300 (Evo CS 1st gen/ diamond 9 CS/ Diamond 10 CS)
Wharfedale rear speaker = ~150 (Diamond 9SR)
Any subwoofer around 250 (suggestions?)
Yamaha RX-V473 = ~350
Total = 1k/1.2k

2) Best USED (old models) material by 1k
B&W main speakers = ~400 (601 S2)
B&W central speaker = ~200 (606 S2)
Any rear speaker = ~150 (suggestions?)
Any subwoofer around 250 (suggestions?)
Yamaha RX-V473 = ~350
Total = 1K + receiver

3) Best USED (new models) material above 1k
B&W main speakers = ~400 (685)
B&W central speaker = ~350 (6 series)
Any rear speaker = ~150 (suggestions?)
Any subwoofer around 250 (suggestions?)
Yamaha RX-V473 = ~350
Total = 1.2K + receiver

My questions are:
A) Considering the 1st option, buying new stuff, would be better to choose the same line (Diamond 10) buying the Main and Central (for 650), or could I choose the Evo-2 and match with DIA 9CS or DIA 10CS central? This will give me a nice Main+central under 500/600....what are your recommendations? For the same price worth to pick up the Evo (not matched with same line) or the Diamond 10.1 (matched with same line)?
B) Considering the used options, worth to spend 600/700 in used B&W as mentioned in #2 and #3 cases? Wuld you guys recommend this instead the new Wharfedale models?

Tks!
Francisco
 
sholling

sholling

Audioholic Ninja
I think you were on the right track to begin with with a 2.0 or 2.1 system and then go back and add the center and surrounds when you have more money.

How big is the room?
 
zieglj01

zieglj01

Audioholic Spartan
I would match Evo to Evo, and Diamond to Diamond.
I would hold off on surrounds, and aim for a good sub
like Rythmik, HSU or Epik.
 
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GranteedEV

GranteedEV

Audioholic Ninja
I'm planning to build a HT to use for music (40%) and movies (60%) and I have a low budget...I included 1k but depending on what this HT will be, i might consider a little bit more (or less).
More is always better :D

My first idea was to find a nice 2.1 system, but after thinking a little bit more I've decided to pick up a 5.1....
In your budget, I like the "2.1 for now" path... maybe even 2.0 or 4.0 as half-decent subwoofers are fairly expensive, moreso than a pair of half-decent surrounds.

As much as I read, the most important thing to do is match main and central speakers. Actually, I read an nice article saying the ideal system should consider ~80% between central (40%), main speakers (25%) and subwoofer (25%). I decided to put a budget of 1k and it needs to include the receiver.
I would say main speakers are 65%, subwoofer is another 15%, and center is about 10-15%, with surrounds as the last 5-10%

Fisrt of all, I thought that would be a nice idea to buy used speakers, maybe B&W 600 series (S1)
I'd steer clear of B&W personally. Their speakers tend to measure rather poorly.

This would allow me to get a 250USD subwoower (like wharfedale; energy, polk or others)
Steer clear of brick n mortar subwoofers as well. They're undersized, and underperforming.

Looking forward it seems that buying a brand new will give me a longer time to enjoy the system, and I went to see some otpions.
Brand new vs used isn't a big deal - there's good deals in both branches. What is important, is what speakers you pick. There's really poor speakers that at first glance seem like a great deal, but end up being mediocre, and.there's also some speakers which are always a nice choice.

A) Considering the 1st option, buying new stuff, would be better to choose the same line (Diamond 10) buying the Main and Central (for 650), or could I choose the Evo-2 and match with DIA 9CS or DIA 10CS central? This will give me a nice Main+central under 500/600....what are your recommendations? For the same price worth to pick up the Evo (not matched with same line) or the Diamond 10.1 (matched with same line)?
Sorry, I'm not too familiar with wharfdale speakers, and they seem somewhat unappealing to me.

B) Considering the used options, worth to spend 600/700 in used B&W as mentioned in #2 and #3 cases? Wuld you guys recommend this instead the new Wharfedale models?
While B&W is a widely known and distrubuted brand name, their speakers are seem stuck in the 1960s when it comes to measured performance. Blegh.

I would recommend, for now, getting the best 2.0 you can get, maybe two of these:

KEF Q700 Q Series 6-1/2 inch Cherry Floorstanding Speaker, Each | Accessories4less

plus one of these:

MARANTZ SR5005 100w X 7ch 3-D Home Theater Surround Receiver | Accessories4less

Once you begin to appreciate a good speaker, the other stuff (subwoofer, center, surrounds) can be added slowly as you yourself evaluate what aspects of the system you want to expand. That is what I recommend. I realize I may have blown your budget out of the water, and everyone here will have other options for you to consider, but that's about the level of quality I would shoot for if I were you. This is especially true on the electronics from - i would want something with decent amplifier sections and full set of preamplifier outputs. Some EMP e55tis:

EMP Tek Tower Speakers

are another speaker you may wish to consider, if your room is larger.
 

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