New HT addition

[pzaur]

Just got a Samsung BD-P1500 for free from a family member! I must say the picture is immensely better than my current Yamaha DVD player I was using.

What's even better is that I was able to keep the Yamaha connected for SACD playing and also add the blu-ray into the setup with minimal difficulty.

-pat

 

[Matt34]

Welcome to the world of 1080p!

 

[pzaur]

Welcome to the world of 1080p!

With a 720p HDTV!

-pat

 

[Matt34]

With a 720p HDTV!

-pat

Nothing wrong with that, my TV is only 720p as well.

 

[yepimonfire]

mine is as well. i don't see a difference with 1080p until the screen size goes past 32"

 

[pzaur]

mine is as well. i don't see a difference with 1080p until the screen size goes past 32"

Well, mine's a 50 inch. Regardless, the image quality is vastly better.

-pat

 

[yepimonfire]

i'm sure it is, ever since watching blu rays since i got a ps3 they look MUCH better, SD looks like crap now.

 

[Pyrrho]

With a 720p HDTV!

-pat

In that case, welcome to the world of 720p! If you are sitting close enough, it is a significant improvement over 480. And you will be ready when you upgrade to a 1080p TV, which can be significantly larger without making the picture less clear (assuming, of course, that the source material maximizes BD potential).

 

[Pyrrho]

mine is as well. i don't see a difference with 1080p until the screen size goes past 32"

It is not simply a function of screen size; it is the combination of screen size, viewing distance, and eyesight. Here is a link for some details on this:

http://www.digital-digest.com/articles/HDTV_Viewing_Distance_Calculator_Guide_page1.html

For a 32" TV, if you have "normal" vision (20/20), if you sit closer than about 6.24 feet, you will start to see a difference between a 32" 720p picture and a 1080p picture. At about 4.16 feet, you will be able to see all of the detail of a 32" 1080p TV. Closer than that, and you would start to see too much (close enough, and you will clearly see the pixels as distinct dots).

So, if you have never noticed a difference between a 32" 720p TV and a 32" 1080p TV, you simply have not been close enough when doing the comparison.

Here are a couple more links on the topic:

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/features/2006/02/maxing-out-resolution

http://hd.engadget.com/2006/12/09/1080p-charted-viewing-distance-to-screen-size/

If you view a TV at the appropriate distance for its size, you will always be able to see a difference between a 720p TV and a 1080p TV, no matter what its size. This is also assuming that you are sending the TV a signal that is at least as high a resolution as the TV. You will not see more detail from a DVD on a 1080p set than on a 720p set, because both are more than capable of showing all the detail that is on a DVD. But on a well made BD, you will see more detail on a 1080p set than on a 720p set if you are close enough to the TVs, no matter what the size of the TVs.

 

[yepimonfire]

not true in my case i have a 19" tv, thats 720p, ive seen 1080p 19" tv's and there honestly is no difference even at super close distances.

 

[Transmaniacon]

I sit about 7 feet from my Panasonic 42 inch plasma (720P), and its looks just as good as any of the 1080P TVs I have watched. PS, once you go plasma, LCDs just seem so dull

 

[yepimonfire]

some of the cheaper LCD's have lighting issues that can make them seem dull.

 

[jostenmeat]

I sit about 7 feet from my Panasonic 42 inch plasma (720P), and its looks just as good as any of the 1080P TVs I have watched. PS, once you go plasma, LCDs just seem so dull

That's because from 7ft with a 42", you still have not even begun to get any benefit of 1080p, assuming 20/20.

Also, all panasonic "720p" plasmas are actually 768p in native (horizontal) resolution. You will have to investigate to see if it has 1024 or 1366 vertical lines of resolution.

Because the vast majority of 720p TVs are actually 768p, it is best to leave the bluray player to output 1080p (assuming the TV can accept it), so that only one instance of scaling occurs. If you output 720p on the player, the tv then has to scale a second time to get it back up to 768p, or IOW, add another 127,488 pixels.

edit: oh, congrats to Pat. 'bout time!

 

[pzaur]

edit: oh, congrats to Pat. 'bout time!

No S***!

-pat

 

[Pyrrho]

I sit about 7 feet from my Panasonic 42 inch plasma (720P), and its looks just as good as any of the 1080P TVs I have watched. PS, once you go plasma, LCDs just seem so dull

That's because from 7ft with a 42", you still have not even begun to get any benefit of 1080p, assuming 20/20.

Also, all panasonic "720p" plasmas are actually 768p in native (horizontal) resolution. You will have to investigate to see if it has 1024 or 1366 vertical lines of resolution.

Because the vast majority of 720p TVs are actually 768p, it is best to leave the bluray player to output 1080p (assuming the TV can accept it), so that only one instance of scaling occurs. If you output 720p on the player, the tv then has to scale a second time to get it back up to 768p, or IOW, add another 127,488 pixels.

edit: oh, congrats to Pat. 'bout time!

You are mistaken. Anything closer than about 8.19 feet with a 42" screen, and one will see a difference between 720p and 1080p if one has 20/20 vision. At 7 feet, the difference will be easy to see if one has 20/20 vision. See:

http://www.digital-digest.com/articles/HDTV_Viewing_Distance_Calculator_Guide_page1.html

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/features/2006/02/maxing-out-resolution

http://hd.engadget.com/2006/12/09/1080p-charted-viewing-distance-to-screen-size/

If one is sitting 7 feet away and cannot tell a difference, it is time to go see an eye doctor to find out if one's vision can be corrected. (There is a reason why it is often recommended that one visit an eye doctor every year, as it is common for eyes to gradually change over time such that one does not notice that one's vision has significantly deteriorated.)

 

[jostenmeat]

You are mistaken. Anything closer than about 8.19 feet with a 42" screen, and one will see a difference between 720p and 1080p if one has 20/20 vision. At 7 feet, the difference will be easy to see if one has 20/20 vision.

If one is sitting 7 feet away and cannot tell a difference, it is time to go see an eye doctor to find out if one's vision can be corrected. (There is a reason why it is often recommended that one visit an eye doctor every year, as it is common for eyes to gradually change over time such that one does not notice that one's vision has significantly deteriorated.)

Ah, you are right, 1080p will start to have benefits from 7' as long as you don't tilt your head back. But not to the extent of it warranting an eye doctor visit if you can't easily tell, well IMO. I do visit the optometrist every year. Anyways, you have to be close as about 5' and perhaps change to get the FULL benefit of 1080p with a 42".

Most people don't have 20/20 vision.

 

[3db]

Just got a Samsung BD-P1500 for free from a family member! I must say the picture is immensely better than my current Yamaha DVD player I was using.

What's even better is that I was able to keep the Yamaha connected for SACD playing and also add the blu-ray into the setup with minimal difficulty.

-pat

Congrats.