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Meghan

Audiophyte
Hi!

I was wondering if anyone could help me out figuring out what settings I need to set my speakers to in my receiver. Lately my sub has not been kicking in much when I watch TV, really only if I play music or if the TV is turned up very loud. The sub on the back is turned up to 9, and the crossover I think is on 80 right now. Not sure if that's right or not ?

When I click on "setup", "speakers", then Levels it shows the dB balance for all my speakers, sub, front L&R, center, Surround L&R. How do I know what to put them on?

I just need some help here. I have no idea what I'm doing but I really think everything could sound MUCH better than it currently does! I don't want to set the speakers too high where it could cause them damage. I also really would like my sub kicking in more where I notice it but it's not a night club, shaking the entire house. My main goal is to figure out and use the everything to it's fullest potential that it can for a nice sound.

Thank you!
 

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Meghan

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Trying to post all the specs but it's saying I can't because it contains a link or email address. Which is doesn't :( Trying here folks
 
KEW

KEW

Audioholic Overlord
Have you run YPAO (using the microphone that came with your AVR) yet? That should set the levels for you.
Set speakers to small on AVR and crossover at 60Hz.
 
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Seriously, I have no life.
Hi!

I was wondering if anyone could help me out figuring out what settings I need to set my speakers to in my receiver. Lately my sub has not been kicking in much when I watch TV, really only if I play music or if the TV is turned up very loud. The sub on the back is turned up to 9, and the crossover I think is on 80 right now. Not sure if that's right or not ?

When I click on "setup", "speakers", then Levels it shows the dB balance for all my speakers, sub, front L&R, center, Surround L&R. How do I know what to put them on?

I just need some help here. I have no idea what I'm doing but I really think everything could sound MUCH better than it currently does! I don't want to set the speakers too high where it could cause them damage. I also really would like my sub kicking in more where I notice it but it's not a night club, shaking the entire house. My main goal is to figure out and use the everything to it's fullest potential that it can for a nice sound.

Thank you!
The room was quiet when you ran YPao? That's mandatory. Also, lower the input control on the sub- this will force the receiver to send a hotter signal to the sub and the auto-turn on will work at a lower volume setting. Once it has run YPao, you can manually adjust the sub's level.

If it doesn't sound good to you, check the speaker wire connections on both ends- one wire that's reversed will screw up a lot and it won't sound the way it should.
 
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Meghan

Audiophyte
Have you run YPAO (using the microphone that came with your AVR) yet? That should set the levels for you.
Set speakers to small on AVR and crossover at 60Hz.
I did. It came out with the speakers not the same.

FL: +4.5dB
FR: +5.5dB

C: +5dB

SL: +4.5
SR:+6.5

SW: -6.5

Do I go in and make the Left & Right ones match each other?
 
tyhjaarpa

tyhjaarpa

Audioholic Field Marshall
I myself would match the FL and FR if you had the mic on center. Your problem is SW level, try setting your sub at 0.0 assuming your sub is still quiet.
 
KEW

KEW

Audioholic Overlord
I did. It came out with the speakers not the same.

FL: +4.5dB
FR: +5.5dB

C: +5dB

SL: +4.5
SR:+6.5

SW: -6.5

Do I go in and make the Left & Right ones match each other?
I normally see numbers like that because my listening position is off to one side.

The level measurements are taken from the very first place you used the microphone. It looks like you measured from a position somewhat left of center. If that is the case, leave them as they are.
Other legit reasons for the levels to be different between the L and R would involve room acoustics. For example if one side was a brick or glass wall and the other was covered with drapes and tapestries or upholstered furniture the system should be adding less dB to the glass/brick side.
Perplexing is that your receiver seems to be doing the opposite of what you want! It is increasing the level of the speakers and decreasing the level of the sub.

Set the sub at 0 as Tyhjaarpa suggested and let us know if that was enough.

Then, do a factory reset:
http://faq.yamaha.com/us/en/article/audio-visual/av-receivers-amps/rx/rx-v479_black_u/10915/8796/

You will have to go through your setup again (language, custom naming inputs, or anything else you did when you got the receiver) and listen to it before running YPAO to see how it sounds without any processed settings. Maybe your YPAO is wonky!

That's all I got for now!
 
KEW

KEW

Audioholic Overlord
I just re-read your original post, and it sounds like you would also like to turn up your speakers?

How large is your room? If it is a large-ish living room, that sub will not be able to command it the way you would want.
Similarly, the DV62si are inexpensive bookshelf speakers which cannot play as loud as you might like.

Don't get me wrong, I think the BIC Venturi products are pretty nice for the cost. However, they will only play so loud before the sound quality goes to crap (and turn them down when that happens or they can be damaged).
If you are in a normal sized bedroom, they should do fine.
 
zieglj01

zieglj01

Audioholic Spartan
Don't get me wrong, I think the BIC Venturi products are pretty nice for the cost. However, they will only play so loud before the sound quality goes to crap (and turn them down when that happens or they can be damaged).
If you are in a normal sized bedroom, they should do fine.
The louder you turn the Bic up, the more harsh and rough they sound.
The boxes are also weak.
 
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herbu

Audioholic Samurai
I did. It came out with the speakers not the same.
Do I go in and make the Left & Right ones match each other?
Do you understand what YPAO does? In part, it sets the volume of each speaker so the sound reaching your ears, (the microphone position), is the same from each speaker.

There are many things that can make one speaker sound louder or softer than another. YPAO sends a known volume to each speaker, one at a time, then measures how loud the volume is at the microphone. It adjusts the relative volume in the AVR so everything is equal at your ears.

Assuming you followed the YPAO directions, and used your MAIN listening position as Position #1, I would not change any volume settings. At least not yet. If you do, you will be unbalancing your system. Perhaps that is your preference, but I wouldn't do it to start.

Now your subwoofer. YPAO set it at -6.5. In order to balance your system, YPAO had to turn UP all your speakers, and turn DOWN your sub. In a perfect world, all your speakers and sub(s) would be set to 0. Fortunately, you can help.

I think your sub has a volume/gain control on the back. You need to turn it DOWN ~6.5dB. (I know... you want more bass, but stay with me here.) Now re-run YPAO. Keep fiddling w/ the volume/gain on the back of your sub until you can get YPAO to show 0, or very near 0.

Now you have achieved the BALANCE between bass and higher frequencies that was intended by the artist and recording engineers. From here, it is a matter of your personal preference, AND you have maximum flexibility to change it up or down in your AVR.

Listen for a while and see what you think. Listen to music. Listen to big action movies. Many of us prefer the bass level to be as intended for music, but louder for movies. Perhaps you prefer louder for both. You can play with it, knowing you're starting from the intended levels.

One note: Your AVR has a maximum it can turn the volume of any speaker up or down. It's probably somewhere around 7-8dB. Use the AVR to adjust the volume within its limits. If you find you want more from the sub, you can go back to the volume/gain on the sub and turn it up a bit.

During your balanced, critical listening, you may decide you want the Left, Right, or some Surround speaker louder or softer. Perhaps your partner's seat is very close to one of the Surrounds and you want to turn it down a bit. It's OK. My point in all this is that I suggest you start from a balanced position. Change any volume you want, but only if you have a specific reason. Do not change something just so the numbers match.
 

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