Need Help!! Pics included

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duke44jb

Audiophyte
I recently got a hdtv for christmas. I also got a new dvd player. Im trying too hook them up so they will all be one big happy family, but I am about to rip out my hair. I can't get the the surround sound to play on all my speakers. It will just play on the two fronts. So i took everything apart and am goin to try from scratch. I have included pics of my entire system and all of my cables, i just need to know what goes to what. If someone could take me through a step by step process I will by them an ice cream.

Here is a pic of the back of the T.V.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c166/duke44jb/aba426c9.jpg

Here is a pic of the back of the cable box
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c166/duke44jb/BackofCablebox.jpg

Here are two pics of what they looked like after I connected them
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c166/duke44jb/tvtocablebox.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c166/duke44jb/cableboxtotv.jpg

Here is a pic of the back of the dvd player
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c166/duke44jb/backofdvdplayer.jpg

Here is a pic of the back of my reciever
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c166/duke44jb/Backofreceiver.jpg

And here is a pic of all my cables
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c166/duke44jb/cables.jpg

Thank you in advance
 
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zumbo

Audioholic Spartan
TO OTHERS WHO MAY VIEW THIS THREAD. THIS IS NOT A BASIC HOOK-UP TO FOLLOW. THIS IS FOR THIS PARTICULAR SYSTEM ONLY.

Connect s-video (out from dvd) to dvd s-video in(on receiver)

Connect s-video (out from receiver) to s-video in (on tv)

Use the coaxial (audio) connection between your dvd and your receiver. You really need a new cable for this, but for now, try one side of that black cable if it has a standard RCA at the end.
Don't hook-up the red and white ones.;)

Keep the connections between the cable box & tv.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c166/duke44jb/tvtocablebox.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c166/duke44jb/cableboxtotv.jpg

The optical needs to go from your cable box (optical out) to your receivers (optical in)

I made some changes, so read this again.

I did not recommend using HDMI because 1) You don't have the cable, and 2) I didn't see it on your receiver. HDMI carries the video signal, and the audio signal.

The optical and digital coax carry the complete 5.1 audio signal. The red and white coax connections only give you left and right. This is why you didn't have 5.1. You have to use the on screen menu of a dvd to select 5.1 after you insert a dvd. Be sure you do this before viewing your movie. Also, most of your Comcast programming is going to be left and right only. In this case, select (pro-logic) surround or (PL11) surround on your receiver for surround simulation.

Your receiver may have a selection for the digital inputs. It may give preference to one or the other. You need to read in your manual to see if it does. It may say on the back. If it happens to give preference to the optical, you need to be sure your cable box is off while viewing a dvd.

You will also be able to watch tv without your audio system on if you wish. You have made the audio connection between your tv and cable box already. The audio system will have to be on for the dvd.
 
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duke44jb

Audiophyte
"Use the coaxial (audio) connection between your dvd and your receiver"

Do i have a coaxial cable? Is it the one i labeled "I dont know what these are?" They are colored blue and red.

My reciever has both an optical and coxial input.

If the optical is going to be run from the cable box to the reciever, should the coaxial (if i have it) be run from the dvd to the reciever. my reciever allows me to select the input, whether it is coaxial or optical.
 
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zumbo

Audioholic Spartan
duke44jb said:
"Use the coaxial (audio) connection between your dvd and your receiver"

Do i have a coaxial cable? Is it the one i labeled "I dont know what these are?" They are colored blue and red.
You don't have the cable. For now, use the one labeled "I don't know" if it has standard RCA's at the end. I can't tell by the picture. Either use the blue side, or the red side. Leave the other end hanging.

duke44jb said:
My reciever has both an optical and coxial input.

If the optical is going to be run from the cable box to the reciever, should the coaxial (if i have it) be run from the dvd to the reciever. my reciever allows me to select the input, whether it is coaxial or optical.
Yes. Select optical when using the cable box, and select coaxial when viewing a dvd. This will switch the (audio) for the component you wish to use.
 
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zumbo

Audioholic Spartan
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duke44jb

Audiophyte
thank you so much for you patience. i will go do that now. quick question....will the s-video be able to carry the high def pic from the reciever to the tv?
 
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zumbo

Audioholic Spartan
duke44jb said:
thank you so much for you patience. i will go do that now. quick question....will the s-video be able to carry the high def pic from the reciever to the tv?
Oops. Like you said, you forgot those pictures. O.K., forget about the s-video connections. Connect the red, yellow, and blue from the dvd to the tv where you have it. Now, to get 5.1 you are going to have to connect the coaxial from the dvd to the receiver as I mentioned. Depending on your dvd player, you may be able to leave the red and white (audio) connections between the dvd player and the tv connected for viewing a dvd with tv sound(if you want the stereo off). Your dvd manual will state if it outputs (audio) simultaneously.
 
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duke44jb

Audiophyte
should i disconnect the red and white analog going from the dvd to the tv?
 
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duke44jb

Audiophyte
should i disconnect the red and white analog going from the dvd to the tv? nevermind i just read your last post. ill go give it a shot now. ill let you know how it works out.
 
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zumbo

Audioholic Spartan
The pictures really help. I have got to get a digital camera.;)

The only problem with this that needs to be remembered is:

You will have to select the video source on the tv as well as the audio source on the receiver due to the limited connections available. The good thing is that you are utilizing the top features from each componet.(other than HDMI)

Component input (1) for cable on the tv.
Optical (audio) input for cable(audio) on the receiver.

Component input (2) for dvd on the tv.
Coaxial (audio) input for dvd(audio) on the receiver.
 
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Sheep

Sheep

Audioholic Warlord
OK, time to fix this mess.

Leave your cable box as it was. It was set up fine.

Did you check to see if your receiver was in stereo? If it was, it won't play all 5 speakers.

Use your optical cable to send digital audio to your receiver. Those other cables are regular analog cables and are not 75ohm stable.

Send ONLY PICTURE to your TV. Send ALL audio to your receiver.

Theres no need to send video to your receiver. Its just another cable needed for absolutely no gain.


If you want to use the DVI output on your cable box, you can get a DVI to HDMI cable that will work with your TV, freeing up a set of component cables for you DVD player.

If you want HD dvd, then you have to send picture to your receiver. But, it has ot be able to up convert. I am not familiar with your receiver so I don't know if it will work.

Wiring stereos it hard to explain over a forum, and it was very helpful that you had pictures.
 
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zumbo

Audioholic Spartan
Sheep said:
OK, time to fix this mess.

Leave your cable box as it was. It was set up fine.

Did you check to see if your receiver was in stereo? If it was, it won't play all 5 speakers.

Use your optical cable to send digital audio to your receiver. Those other cables are regular analog cables and are not 75ohm stable.

Send ONLY PICTURE to your TV. Send ALL audio to your receiver.

Theres no need to send video to your receiver. Its just another cable needed for absolutely no gain.

S video is not High def. DVI, component, and HDMI are the only HD cables.

If you want to use the DVI output on your cable box, you can get a DVI to HDMI cable that will work with your TV, freeing up a set of component cables for you DVD player.

If you want HD dvd, then you have to send picture to your receiver. But, it has ot be able to up convert. I am not familiar with your receiver so I don't know if it will work.

Wiring stereos it hard to explain over a forum, and it was very helpful that you had pictures.
Back off! I have this.:mad: His receiver doesn't support HDMI and he doesn't have the cable. I am making the best use out of what he has so he can enjoy his system.

The correct way to connect video is through the receiver so you can switch on the fly. His receiver is limited. He also did not list the extra cables for the component video for the dvd player until after I had made use of his s-video cables. Now we have unhooked his s-video and made use of the component cables before you brought your attitude in here.
 
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Sheep

Sheep

Audioholic Warlord
zumbo said:
Back off! I have this.:mad: His receiver doesn't support HDMI and he doesn't have the cable. I am making the best use out of what he has so he can enjoy his system.

The correct way to connect video is through the receiver so you can switch on the fly. His receiver is limited. He also did not list the extra cables for the component video for the dvd player until after I had made use of his s-video cables. Now we have unhooked his s-video and made use of the component cables before you brought your attitude in here.
The TV remote control can ALSO switch video, its also much easier becasue it only switches video, not audio too.

Making use of his optical cable is the most logical way to get digital sound to his receiver.

DVD player = video to tv, audio to receiver
Cable box = video to tv, audio to receiver

General rule, unless you are using a receiver to upconvert video signals is to send picture to displays, audio to receivers.

SheepStar
 
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zumbo

Audioholic Spartan
Sheep said:
The TV remote control can ALSO switch video, its also much easier becasue it only switches video, not audio too.
You still have to change the audio in the receiver. And, this has been covered. The ideal way is to have everything go through the receiver so you don't have to use two remotes. But, he has no choice due to limited connections on the receiver.

Sheep said:
Making use of his optical cable is the most logical way to get digital sound to his receiver.
It has been made use of, along with the coaxial. The receiver only has one of each, so we used one for the dvd(coaxial) and one for the cable box(optical).

Sheep said:
DVD player = video to tv, audio to receiver
Cable box = video to tv, audio to receiver

General rule, unless you are using a receiver to upconvert video signals is to send picture to displays, audio to receivers.

SheepStar
This is what has been done. You are not helping. And again, your general rule is not ideal for ease of opperation.
 
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duke44jb

Audiophyte
Thank you zumbo for all your help and guidance. Your imput worked out perfectly and the system is up and running well.:D :D :D I'll be back in a while when it is time to update my antiquated reciever with something that will actually help to optimize my system!! Thanx again:) :) :)
 

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